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Tutorial Getting the most from your Start collecting Seraphon box.

Discussion in 'Tutorials' started by Crowsfoot, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    We all know the SC box is good value but can we make it better value, I think so and hopefully here I will show you how.

    Everything used will come from the SC box, minimal conversion skills needed only extra things you will need are

    1 120mm oval base
    1 40mm round base
    Green stuff or similar modelling putty

    This tutorial is based around building the Carnasour with the scar vet rider and the Troglodon Oracle not being used on the Troglodon.

    So in the box you get the following usable units,

    10 Warriors (2 spare)
    5 Knights (3 spare)
    1 Carnosaur or Troglodon

    After this tutorial you will have the following,

    10 Warriors
    5 Knights
    1 Carnosaur with Scarvet rider
    1 Troglodon
    1 Astrolith Bearer
    1 Oldblood on foot
    1 Sunblood
    1 Scarvet on Coldone (you could make 3)

    I can see your face your all thinking how is that possible, well dive in and find out. ;)
     
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  2. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Scarvet on cold one

    Simple this one, Coldone built with the champions head, rider has champions head, shield on his back and both arms are from the warrior set, cut the hand off the right arm and attach the blade for the oldblood from the Carny sprue.

    Edit: You don't need to change the weapon as on his warscroll he has a Warpick.

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  3. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Sunblood or Oldblood on foot

    Again very simple this one, standard warrior with Saurus Knight champions head, Mace weapon in right hand and use the spare Carny top head piece as his shield, shoulder armour from the warriors sprue.

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  4. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Skink priest

    Just build him as standard and stick him on a base, or magnetize him to fit both.

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  5. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Astrolith Bearer Part 1

    This one is a bit more in depth but still simple if you take your time parts you will need,

    1 warrior and warrior head
    2 star icons, warrior kit
    1 banner arm, warrior kit
    1 32mm base remove the lip
    1/2 drum from the warrior kit, file it flat on the back
    2 snake banner tops, Knight kit
    1 extended arm, warrior kit, remove the weapon above the hand
    1 suitable weapon for you bearer
    Any bits you want to adorn on the bearer.

    Glue the warrior to the 40mm base, use a suitable head.


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    Cut the Star icons just below the head and trim neat

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    Trim the rivets and any out sticking parts from the banner pole top

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    Place the banner arm between the icons and glue in place, the arm wants to be at 90 degrees to the icons.

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    Attach the arm to the warrior body, it should look something like this.

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    Trim the base flat

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    Trim the drum flat

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    Attach the base to the icons and then the drum to the base like this.

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    More in part 2
     
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  6. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Astrolith Bearer Part 2

    Now take the two snake banner tops

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    Trim flat where it would attach to the banner pole, cut them carefully on a joint as below and glue together

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    Attach to the back of the base as below

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    Attach any extra bits to the base front as below.

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    Take the out stretched arm and chosen weapon

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    Glue together

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    Attach the arm to the model

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    You can add shoulder pads, extra weapons etc if you wish.
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Troglodon part 1

    Take the head and tail and assemble together, when dry take the head and cut it square at the bottom.

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    Now stick this to the 120 oval base, take the large fin section and use it to place where the tail would go, leave a small gap and glue the tail to the base, now glue the fin in place, you may need to trim it to sit flat and you can cut a bit of sprue to support the head and fin, like below.

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    Leave it to dry over night before starting to sculpt the body.

    Once dry take some modelling putty/clay and fill under the fin to make a body shape, don’t go past the scales in thickness and it does not need to be precise, leave to fully dry,pic below.

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    Part two to follow



     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Troglodon part 2

    Once fully dry take your finishing putty/clay (im using greenstuff) and apply enough to cover one side, apply to the thickness of the scales, pic below.

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    Now smooth it a little with a wet shaper or your finger, don’t lick your finger dip it in a water pot.

    Now take a shaper or tool you can use to make lines, I looked at the carnosaur for reference and just make squares and rectangles then I used the rubber clay shaper to apply texture, just gentle stab the greenstuff,pic below.

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    I put the skink oracle on his back as I have loads of priests but you can leave it off if you don’t have a priest model.

    And there you have it a relatively simple way of making the most of your Seraphon starter box.

    Couple of pics with the oracle attached.

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    I hope you find this useful and keep an eye out for a follow up tutorial on painting your Starter set.

    And here he is finished,

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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Love the Astrolith Bearer!
     
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    Me too
     
  11. martin swaffield
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    As someone just getting into AoS and just working my way through a start collecting box this is perfect. Looking forward to the last few bits.

    Would you recommend building a musician and Standard for the knights or is it not worth it when it comes to playing?
     
  12. Crowsfoot
    Slann

    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Build your units with full command the bonuses are free and they have the same attacks etc as normal knights.
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Last bits should be up early next week
     
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    Really nice start @Crowsfoot, will be making my own bearer with your help!

    Would be a great sticky for the P&C forum!
     
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    My goodness that astrolith bearer is fantastic! I will definitely be using that to make one of my own.
     
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    @Crowsfoot thank you for the info! I’m starting on my list next week. Any more goodies?
     
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    I'm working on the Troglodon at the moment will get some pics up this week.
     
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    Updated with the Troglodon completed.
     
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    Slann

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    This is amazing @Crowsfoot !

    Your tutorial of what to do when you open the Lizardmen starter-box is a great idea, I could have used this a long time ago! This link needs to be saved so that new players can have it for reference, all the conversions you have listed are very easy to do!

    I was most inspired by your Battle-Standard Bearer (Astrolith), very simple use of materials at hand. I hope I can use your plan and modify it a bit to make my own, always something I wanted to try.

    And I am a fan of your troglodon conversion, I did the same thing for my own already :D and I have to say the scales you carved are exquisite :cool:

    Kudos to @Skinquisitor and his conversion for my original troglodon inspiration!
     
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    I need to keep this thread at hand, everytime a newcomer asks about our Start Collecting. ;)
     
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