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8th Ed. Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (again)

Discussion in 'Lizardmen & Saurian Ancients Discussion' started by Pinktaco, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. Pinktaco
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    We used to have them back in 6th edition as a themed Southlands skink army. Got removed by the 7th edition army book.

    They aren't the most needed unit, but I still would love them with the following stats/rules:

    - Skink with spear, S4 on charge, upgradeable to include Shield. Can switch spaer for javelin.
    - Cold One could have T3 and Ld6.

    Would give the each model 3 S4 attacks on the charge, cause fear, have a 4+ armour save (upgradeable to 3+), M7, T3 and Ld6.

    Price around.. 20pts, 1pts for shield.

    Cheap bunker for our cowboys. Would this be an actual and overpowered issue though?

    Now, include spear with the price of our regular COR and give them the option to take a magic banner. None of that would've been overpowered. Right? <.<

    Could make a for crazy all cav/flying list lol.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Well maybe not on cold ones,
    I'd like to see horned ones back or crazier idea as birds are dinosaurs, i'd like to see skinks on culchans ( giant carnivorous birds)
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    I was tempted for a while to buy an old pack of Tichi Huichi's riders and just use them as Cold One cavalry. I think the models are better than the current Saurus cavalry and are a bit more unusual. As I bought the battalion boxed set and had more riders than I really needed I decided against it. It would be cool though.

    We do have quite a few mounted Skink options but the more the merrier I say. Heck they could even be core.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Your not the only one....

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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    @n810: So cool! I might have to resurrect the idea! :pompus:
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    To be honest, I don't really see what role they'll serve that Terradons, Ripperdactyls or Skink Skirmishers don't already deliver, at which point it just becomes an option for the sake of having it as they all fulfil the mobile chaff/light cavalry niche quite nicely.

    At 20 points per model you are looking at 100 for the unit (without shields). You can get 3 Terradons or 14 Skink Skirmishers for that, both of which will do a better job at almost everything besides holding a flag.

    And a Scar-Vet leading a bunch of Skinks around on the same mount doesn't seem right.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    :jawdrop:
    YES!
    Maybe not cold ones, but the culchan idea was cool, and you could put them on smaller raptors.
    As for what niche... I think they could be very fast, fragile, and cheap. So maybe 12 points each, but they're incredibly easy to kill. That way, they're basically just made for distractions, fleeing, and maybe as a kamakazi unit- hit first, dish out someattacks, then get slaughtered.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    I'd much rather Saurus on something else. Some type of heavy cav unit.

    I really think rippers should have had saurus on their back.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Toughness 2 cavalry!? Lul =)
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    I perfer the Regiment of the Renown version of them.

    Code:
    TICHI HUICHI’S RAIDERS
    For Hire: Tichi-Huichi’s Raiders can be hired as a Rare Unit in
    Dogs of War armies. Alternatively, they can be hired as a Rare Unit
    in other Warhammer armies, except Bretonnia, any Chaos, Chaos
    Dwarfs, Skaven, Vampire Counts and Khemri.
    Points: Tichi-Huichi and five Skink Cold One Riders including a
    Standard Bearer and Musician cost 250 points. This is the
    minimum unit you can hire. The regiment may be increased by
    adding more Skink Cold One Riders at +22 points each.
                 M WS BS S T W I A Ld
    Tichi-Huichi 6 4 4 4 3 2 5 3 7
    Gt.Crested Skink6 2 3 3 2 1 4 1 6
    Cold One 8 3 0 4 4 1 1 2 3
    Unit size: 6-20
    Equipment: Hand weapons, spears, scaly skin (counts as light
    armour) and shields.
    SPECIAL RULES
    Cold-Blooded: Skinks are cold-blooded and slow to react to
    psychology. Roll three dice when testing against Leadership and
    choose the two lowest scores.
    Cold Ones: Cold Ones cause fear, are subject to stupidity, and
    give their riders +2 to their Armour saves in place of the usual +1
    for mounted troops.
    Blessed by the Old Ones: Tichi-Huichi and his Skink Cold One
    Riders enjoy the special favour of the Old Ones. They belong to a
    portentous spawning, brought forth for a mission devised untold
    millennia ago, and consequently a mysterious aura of protection
    pervades the regiment. To represent this, hand-to-hand
    opponents will never pursue Tichi-Huichi’s Raiders if they beat
    them in combat. A strange, tropical fatigue descends on the foe,
    securing Tichi-Huichi’s chance to get away and live to fight
    another day.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Tichi-huichis would make the cold one buss strat even stronger.
    --> do like
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    They are a bit expensive for what they did, even back in the day,
    But I think they have a reasonable statline, and an interesting ability.
     
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    I think they are outrageously expensive for what they do... 250 points for 1 toughness 3 and 4 toughness 2 cav? yikes.

    There won't be any left for the enemy unit to pursue anyways....
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    They are calvery, you get to use the T4 from the mount.
    (Edit: maybe they did back in 5th edition or something?)
    also they have a 3+ armor save.

    but yea they should be like 14 points or something.
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Cavalry uses the riders toughness, not the highest!
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Realy ?
    my experienc is CoC for the most part and they both have TO4,
    but I allways assumed you used the highest on anything with a combined profile.
     
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    I wish that Cold One Knights could make use of that useless T4...
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    Yeah it sucks for the dark elves, but rulebook page 82:

    "The mount's Wounds and Toughness are never used. We assume that the enemy always strikes at the rider, so his Wounds and Toughness are used instead - if the rider is slain, we treat the mount as having fled the battle or been slain alongside its master."
     
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    I'm curious, why do cav mount even have a toughness stat then ? o_O
     
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    Re: Am I the only one who would love Skinks on Cold ones (ag

    No idea, I think it would be cleaner and more logical if they didn't ^_^
     

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