Those darned metal models

So a week or so ago I found this person on the internet who sold me an old metal lord croak box. It was pretty cheap so I bought it and tried to assemble it. But it just won't stick together. I had the same problem with the old blood on cold one. I am using the citadel super glue thick, but its just not cutting it. Can any of you assist me with yer boundless wisdom to get lord kroak together?"Do I just need more patience or a different glue.

go with loctite or similar. no poly glue.

I have had limited success mixing greenstuff in superglue. The green stuff holds it in place while it dries. Sometimes problematic for smallish pieces.

Gale Force 9 super glue has worked for me, even better when I mix it with green stuff. As Scalenex points out, it can be difficult to use if the pieces are small, without green stuff squeezing from between the pieces, but even then I have found it's better than just superglue. Also, I always scratch the surfaces that are to be glued and leave some of the metal dust in there, as both of these increase the surface area that the glue can work on. And then there's pinning, which can work nicely on a fat frog...

Did you pin it first?

Doing that will make it easier to glue together, especially if you have a tick superglue type (not the thin easy running one).

Personally I tend to glue all my metal units with two component epoxy glue, takes longer for it to glue, so assembling a model takes a few days. But after I know that even if I lose the model in the ground, the parts wont break apart.

I've got a Chakax (sp?) I'd love to paint but HIS DAMNED TAIL WON'T GO ON. greenstuff and a failed pinning attempt make me sad.

At this point I'm considering trying to solder it on....

Pinning, always pin metal models all of the time. Superglue (I'm currently using loctite) works just fine so long as the joint is pinned. Then use a bit of green stuff (liquid or otherwise) to fill up the inevitable cracks where the joint doesn't quite meet and that enhances the bonding.

Sounds like I am going to need some lessons on pinning. Never did that before.

Oh okay. It's really easy to do but you need the right equipment. Basically you need a means of drilling really small holes, I use an old gw pin vice and then use bits of metal paperclips as the pins.

In simple terms you just need to drill a small hole in both pieces of the model inside where they join so the hole matches up and then put a small piece of paperclip in the hole to hold both pieces together.

Getting the holes lined up can take a bit of experience but a cheap trick is to put a small blob of paint on one piece of the joint before you do any drilling and then hold the two pieces together. This will then leave you a paint mark on both sides that you can drill into. Then just drill a hole a few mm deep in one piece, put some superglue in it, straighten out a paperclip and insert one end into the hole then clip it off so that there is a few mm still sticking out. Then drill the other side, glue it and stick the two pieces together.

ive currently been attempting some metal models myself. ive got a wood elf dragon a hive tyrant and terradons on the go. so tempted to give the dragon a good toss. I've tried gluing, green stuff, pinning (which i don't really know how to do) with glue and green stuff but the damn pieces still fall apart. My hive tyrant im doing as i type this and mixing krazy glue with green stuff so far is working ok. I use to have a good thick glue but i ran out and the walmart here doesn' carry that glue anymore. My hobby shop charges a lot for GW glue so I may have to switch to a loctite if i can find it. But so far my best results came from krazy glue and green stuff.

-insert metal model here-

Pinning is crucial. Also, you need to understand how supeglue works. You need to only put a small dot of glue and hold the pieces together for a couple of minutes without moving at all.Then just let it dry for 15 minutes and it should be good to go.

I just recently started playing Infinity, and all of it's miniatures are metal. What's worse, they often have very thin and long pieces (arms, legs) whose contact area is very small. It would have been a nightmare, even with pinning, but I happened to buy Loctite Power Epoxy meant for metals.

This is the product I bought:
http://www.clasohlson.com/fi/Power-Epoxy-Loctite--liima/34-9015

Couldn't find exactly the same product from Loctite's webpage, but maybe this is the replacement/new package:
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/epxy_metal_s/overview/Loctite-Epoxy-Metal-Concrete.htm#

The stuff is pretty amazing. It is a bit difficult to get equal amounts of stuff from both tubes, so I always end up using a lot more than what I would actually need, but once you mix them, you can just apply the glue to the desired area (toothpicks are really good for this) and put the pieces together or wait a minute or so that the stuff starts to harden. The great part is that after it has started to harden, you can still adjust the position if it is not what you want, and the bond still seems to be as strong as when you don't adjust it at all. And it is pretty strong, I haven't tested it extensively, but at least it can handle some careful dropping and twisting that would have made superglue come off. It dries in few minutes so that it is strong enough to keep even the big pieces in place and after 24 hours reaches it's maximum strength. It's also faster than pinning AND superglueing.

After several failed attempts with super glue I resorted to a similar 2 part metal epoxy to glue my old 6th edition metal Temple Guard together. Now those suckers are never coming apart now.

I managed to get my tyranid hive tyrant together with green stuf and crazy glue. neither of the pieces are overwhelmingly heavy for the rest of the model so that method worked ok so far. I tried a two part epoxy before, mastercraft brand, but it was just a stupid mess and i had a very hard time mixing equal amounts. for he forest dragon i'll try looking for that loctite epoxy and see if i can figure out how to pin better. that model is stupidly front heavy.

Both mixing and applying are easy with a toothpick. Just draw two lines of the two-part epoxy next to each other, and you can mix them in smaller parts and thus waste less of the stuff. Like I said earlier, super glue and green stuff combo work and the bond is reasonable (usually not fall proof, though), but it can be really difficult to attach very small and/or thin pieces. That's where, at least I think, Loctite epoxy is a winner.

I miss metal models big time. Plastic is fine, I guess, but the heft and strength of metal and is lovely.

I just wanted to say that the greenstuff+zapagap combo is god. It has solved more assembly issues for me than anything other technique.

I also like the feel of metal models, but I probably wouldn't want to have to carry a whole metallic army with me to the games. It is awesome when your important model weights more than half of your army combined, though. Gives it majesty.

i bought a metal slaan a while back and haven't assembled it yet. ive been tryig to find another way to support the throne rather than using that little piece of clear plastic. thinking about fighting with that makes me cringe lol. i love the detail in the metal models but plastic is so much easier for me to work with.