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Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Logan8054, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. brainxigor
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    brainxigor Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe there are a few more women in the hobby nowadays aswell, at least in my LGS or at the local Warhammer store there are way more then when I was in my teens. There arent really a lot of all female factions kicking some serious ass out there.
     
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  2. little-myth
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    I had someone go to me that I should play Sisters of Battle because I'm female, I just laughed. I'm sticking with the Tyranids, thank you.
    But yes, looking at everything as a whole, not many females in the various factions. They are even slowly getting them now into SCE
     
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  3. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    Most of the prominent fantasy universes have monsters that are based on Egyptian stuff, that's true, but many of these universes give these monsters gothic undead aesthetics (D&D especially so), as for a long time that was always how people viewed all undead. Tomb Kings (and their descendants a la Empire of Dust) on the other hand are the only coherent Fantasy army in established wargames systems for miles around that not only has the Egyptian-based monsters, but really goes to town on their Egyptian aesthetic as well. Indeed Tomb Kings pretty much made something original out of somthing generic, so I would say you are wrong on calling Tomb Kings generic tropes.

    What's more, nuns-with-guns ideas have still circulated since before Sisters were ever thought of, so I would say Sisters are actually in a similar position to Tomb Kings - they make something original out of an especially generic and unoriginal trope.

    That has only appeared with this new mega-release though. In previous editions of 40K they didn't have this and there really wasn't that much discerning them from Space Marines mechanics-wise.
     
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  4. SirKillingtonIV
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    All the woman that I know that are in the hobby play tyranids,orks or dark eldar.I know lots of guys that bought the sisters box but don't actually play them and I hop between 2 cities and have play against them once out of about 80ish games since their release, so while they sold well I am just not seeing people play them. And as far as open day went,I was largely disappointed,more chaos stuff but nothing actually new announced for AoS and telling us that the sisters line is coming out is redundant since they've already said they would be coming out 1st of the year but the Shadowsun reveal was nice since it's been about 4 months since the last non imperial non chaos release for 40k
     
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  5. samheim
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    Let me take one guess. Is it the same reason battlefield 5 exists and the new Star Wars films exist as well?

    I think it's that (profanity would go here) feel somehow empowered by supporting sisters of battle and showing off how cool they are by liking them.

    Basically, in not so long there will be female primaris and the game will basically be kill bill or Kadashians in space.

    A better faction would have been Chaos Squats.

    On a positive note, I know that Tau are a starwars rip off, but I am starting to think, they are really interesting faction. If I could just get over my addiction to Chaos Space Marines I would totally get some. Maybe in a few years time.
     
  6. brainxigor
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    Well I can't speak about them in the past because as an all pewter army they were not affordable for me as a teenager, so I sadly had to pass on them.
    That's why im buying them now because finally after waiting for, almost twenty years or something, they are finally available and luckily for me, with their own mechanics and as a unique faction.

    Edit:
    These discussions always go down the drain when it comes to topics like this, let's please not do that.
     
  7. Carnikang
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    Maybe the sudden surge in interest is the fact that they've been waiting 20 years for an update, finally got it, and are also a wholly revamped plastic line.... And not the squat, heavy, and unfriendly-to-new-hobbyist material we all fondly remember as metal?
     
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  8. little-myth
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    Interrupting the Sisters of Battle. Aelves are coming in Spring 2020.
    Pointy Aelves
     
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    source?
     
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  11. ChapterAquila92
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    I would disagree. Whilst the argument could be made for attempting to expand into new demographics, bear in mind that GW has attempted that in the past with middling results (i.e. the early Tau's very Mecha Anime vibe).

    If anything, I definitely agree with what others have said on the matter: SoB were unpopular because they weren't a viable starting army for beginners, especially teens strapped for cash.
     
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    I was sceptical about Hysh Aelves rumor, but it ended up true, lol.
     
  13. Lord Agragax of Lunaxoatl
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    Finally, some interesting news!

    Not Kurnothi, but High Elves 2.0!

    I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with them to make them more unique for AoS, especially as these chaps will be the first truly good-aligned Elf faction (Daughters of Khaine being pretty much evil and Idoneth being neutral)!
     
  14. blueraven84
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    Wild guess now, we get our book within 1-2 months and that's it... nothing else. I guess it's good thing I collect other armies and I'm also hyped for PROPER aelves but it still stings to wait so long...
     
  15. skinko
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    So the big suprise was pointy aelves and not pointy scales. Too bad but used to it.
     
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    That has always been a weird GW policy. Surprise the customers, then be surprised if what we surprised them with doesn't get the greatest reception.

    On the topic of releases, that Campaign book does not bode well for AoS in my eyes. Look at Psychic Awakening. Its a mess. Add on to that that it has options for an Army that just came out.
    No no GW, don't take us down this path.
     
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    and KO points go nuts
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  19. Canas
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    That too, and sisters are the only female faction that's actually fully clothed as well. So yeah, anyone that wants to use a relativly serious female faction, and not halfnaked witches will be pulled towards sisters.

    Issue is that all of what made the tomb kings truly stand out from other egyptian based monsters/faction is lore. And you can't see that when just looking at the artwork. Lore-wise tomb kings were fairly unique, being an actual faction (egyptian monsters tend to be lone wolfs) and one of the few interpretations where everything from egyptian culture was used. Not just taking mummies and a couple of mythical creatures. But also taking things like their form of warfare (loads of chariots and archers) and implementing that in an interesting undead faction. But again, most of that is just lore. Not visual. The visual stayed a generic trope cuz at the end of the day it remains just egyptian stuff. And there's only so much you can do with that. And I think the visual aspect was what was important here.

    In the end i would've prefered to have kept tomb kings though. Especially now that we have bonereapers as a replacement. I wouldn't be surprised if the bonereapers solely exist because they wanted to replace the tomb kings with something that's easier to copyright and is more distinct from other fantasy universes. And just hoped that the tomb king fans would (largely) come along.

    Aside from 40K the only variation of "nuns with guns" I've seen are either:

    a) A small sect of religious assasins (or just a sect of assasins masquerading as a religious sect)

    or

    b) A lone nun who for some reason picked up arms. Which is jsut the warrior-cleric archetype, but female.

    40K is the only one were the nuns with guns form entire armies. And it's also the only one I've seen were they fight on the frontline proper in massive regiments. The other variations I've seen are either a lone nun, who may or may not have been kicked out of her church and has for for some reason become a soldier which is essentially just the warrior-cleric archetype, but female. Or stuff like this

    I don't know of any other variations of "nuns with guns" where you get power armoured, chainsaw wielding sci-fi nuns with guns fighting in massive wars.


    O come on... can they stop releasing new factions into AoS for 2 seconds and actually give existing stuff something new (besides SCE and Nagash). I'd rather have 10 factions where half of them get a new model every 2-3 months than 1 entire new (or overhauled) faction every 2-3 months with the existing factions only getting something new every 2-3 years.

    In all seriousness though, has GW ever stated how many factions they're (roughly) going for? I mean, AoS has more distinct factions than 40K by now (unless you count space marine chapters and stuff like the officio assasinorum as "distinct"). It's starting to look a bit crowded.

    As for the aelves themselves, I'm curious what they'l do with them given that there are still a lot of aelves left in CoS. And several of those are quite pointy. Also, does this perhaps mean that some of the squatted aelves, like the swifthawk agenst could make a return here under a new name? Would be nice if those models can be re-used without looking completly out of place.

    Also, they better keep the name pointy-eared aelves. It's far better than some of their other nonsense :p
     
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  20. brainxigor
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    Huh well, thats kind of disappointing but interesting seeing Hysh Aelves. Well, maybe there will be some dual release with a battlebox Seraphon vs Hysh Aelves fighting over magical supremacy in the realm of light or something, but somehow I doubt it.
     

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