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Tutorial Getting the most from your Start collecting Seraphon box.

Discussion in 'Tutorials' started by Crowsfoot, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. TheLandBeforeTime
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    TheLandBeforeTime Member

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    This is pure genius, im not sure if id follow all of those, definately take a few of those ideas tho, i hsve some old models i can use for some extra parts too, awesome post, john hammond would be proud
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Cheers
     
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  3. Braininthejar
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    Braininthejar Active Member

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    Is there anything I can do with all the spare oldblood limbs?
    There would be enough of them to build a second hero except for the tail - they are too pretty to waste, but also noticably bigger than normal saurus body parts, which limits my options for what I can add them to.
     
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  4. Crowsfoot
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    You could use them for Guard arms perhaps
     
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  5. cuteskink
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    cuteskink Well-Known Member

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    Can you make an Oldblood AND Sunblood, or do you only have the bits for one?
     
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  6. Braininthejar
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    Braininthejar Active Member

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    Surprisingly, it turns out that while the arms are too big for normal saurus (especially the left power gauntlet) all the "hand with weapon" bits are really standard size - and whats more, the plastic skink rider is big enough that you could get away with giving him one - replacing his divining rod with a long spear for example.
     
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  7. Davema
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    Davema Well-Known Member

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    I just glued them together and made a body from green stuff - it looks alright, bit chunky maybe. I have a picture here: http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/daves-space-lizards.24203/#post-312530

    Dave
     
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  8. Braininthejar
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    I was thinking of doing that but didn't know if I had the skill. I'll finish my temple guard first, and then give it a try
     
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  9. Davema
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    Davema Well-Known Member

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    Its not too hard, and its only a small part of the model, so its a great thing to try as a first go at scultping something. I dont have any WIP photos, but basically, the key it to sculpt it in stages - dont try to do it all at once,or it'll be a mess.

    The other thing with greenstuff is that its maybe better to leave it for 10-15 mins after mixing together. It'll be a bit easier to work with. OR just use brownstuff. Its like greenstuff, but less sticky. I find it much easier to work with.

    1) Glue together the bits you have - I was able to glue the spare chest, two arms and a head together as one unit (with a few gaps and a big hole at the back, and then the two spare walking legs are just separate pieces.

    2) Using bluetac as a temporary body, pose and arrange the legs and body on a base as you want them. Try out different positions for the tail. When happy, glue the feet down and remove the bluetac & body.

    3) When the feet are secure, use a blob of greenstuff to fill the void for the hips and back of the body. Dont fill it out completely - leave it a little shy, and dont worry too much about the appearance, we're going to add a surface layer of greenstuff later. Potentially, you could add the tail at this stage, or just embed a little piece of paperclip wire, as an anchor to secure a tail to later. Let this greenstuff cure overnight.

    4) At this stage, you have a solid model, with no back detail, and potentially no tail. We now use more greenstuff to fill out the back to surface level. You can then use a wet tool to smooth this layer out (removing finger prints, etc), and you can draw some rough scale patterns into it. It doesn't need to be perfect, we're not trying to win awards. Just keep the tool wet, and make some kind of lines. You can embed some spines into this, cut from a spare saurus body (you probably have a few cold one rider bodies spare), or sculpt some if you are feeling brave.

    5) For the tail, you can sculpt one completely, or chop one off a spare saurus body - again, i had a spare knight body, and I robbed the bottom part of the tail. I secured it to the rest of the body with greenstuff and added some rough scales.

    6) Let it dry, prime, paint, no-one will ever know at a tabletop level.
     
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  10. Braininthejar
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    I tried to make a tail mould out of plumbing putty - hopefully it will produce something that I can sculpt to an acceptable level. I was also considering some kind of cloak (leopard skin?) to cover the back and make the sculpt less visible.
     
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  11. CrownRoyal
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    Love this thread! Is there something like this for the Starclaw Strikeforce box?
     
  12. Braininthejar
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    Not sure if it was mentioned, (perhaps because it was too obvious) but if you have a spare base for them, the cavalry sprues come with some snakes. Glue a pair of those to a base, with some plants and perhaps an extra green stuff snake or two so they don't all look the same, and you have a very simple jungle swarm.

    lizards skink2.JPG
     
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  13. David Galloway
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    How did you do the water effects??
     
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  14. Spirxa
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    Wow such a quality guide! Thanks a lot.
     
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  15. Shuzakku
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    How did you paint the Troglodon's Skin? Already made the body, just trying to decide how to paint it.
     
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    Crowsfoot Guardian of Paints Staff Member

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    Base Waaargh Flesh
    Wash Athonian camoshade, reapply waaargh but only lightly.
    Layer1 Paint the scales on the outer edge with warboss green.
    Layer2 Paint skarsnik green on the outer edge leaving a bit of warboss green visable.
    Glaze twice with waywatcher green
    Spot highlight the centre of the scales and upper edge with gauss blaster green.
     
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  18. Sludge Bomb Tommy
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    This is an excellent resource, thanks for taking the time to be so thorough. I'm getting back into the hobby after a long time out and this has me all kinds of excited to try some conversions
     
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  19. Prince
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    Hi, I just got my SC Seraphon. Can I first build the standard units, and from the extra parts the whole rest?
    Also, is it OK to buld the Oldblood on Carnosaur? Or does it have to be the scar-vet?

    Thank you for any help!
     
  20. Imrahil
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    Imrahil Thirtheenth Spawning

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    Welcome along!

    To your 2nd point it can also be the Oldblood on the Carnosaur.
    To the 1st point I would have to say that you can build 10 of the Saurus Warriors and 7 of the Saurus Knights in the normal way and use the last 2 warriors and 1 knight to make the characters.

    Good luck and have fun building this box.

    Grrr, Imrahil
     

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