Hello Lizards lovers!! I am starting with age of sigmar, i played lizardmen in warhammer fantasy and have returned after ten years!. I have only played 3 AOS games and now with my friend group (all returning after 10 years XD, wanderers, high elves, skaven, legions of nagash, stormcast and my fantastic seraphon) we are trying to play semi competitive lists and i need some help. I have some list and need your opinions: (i know there is a goos shadowstrike 1250 pts list but i prefer not playing shadowstrike this time) 1. Allegiance: Seraphon LEADERS Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Great Rememberer - Artefact : Incandescent Rectrices Engine of the Gods (220) Engine of the Gods (220) Skink Starpriest (80) UNITS 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers 4 x Razordons (160) 3 x Ripperdactyl Riders (140) ENDLESS SPELLS Balewind Vortex (40) TOTAL: 1240/1250 2. Allegiance: Seraphon LEADERS Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Great Rememberer - Artefact : Incandescent Rectrices Engine of the Gods (220) Skink Starpriest (80) UNITS 4x Razordons (160) 4 x Razordons (160) 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 3 x Ripperdactyl Riders (140) ENDLESS SPELLS Balewind Vortex (40) Chronomantic Cogs (60) TOTAL: 1240/1250 3. Allegiance: Seraphon LEADERS Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Great Rememberer - Artefact : Incandescent Rectrices Engine of the Gods (220) Engine of the Gods (220) UNITS 4 x Razordons (160) 4 x Razordons (160) 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers ENDLESS SPELLS Balewind Vortex (40) TOTAL: 1240/1250 4. Allegiance: Seraphon LEADERS Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Command Trait : Great Rememberer - Artefact : Incandescent Rectrices Engine of the Gods (220) Engine of the Gods (220) UNITS 4 x Razordons (160) 3 x Razordons (120) 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Moonstone Clubs 3 x Ripperdactyl Riders (140) TOTAL: 1240/1250 5. List number 4: -1 razordon + 1 endless spell: balewind vortex They are very similar but i would like your opinions. Which one do you prefer? pd: i hope my english is not too bad Best regards! Thanks!
If you want to be competitive at 1250, you should take Shadowstrike. Every list you created has 8 drops, which nearly assures your opponent will get to choose who will go first. Additionally, you're losing so many tools by not taking Shadowstrike. I'm sure you've seen lists, but here is a sample one including an EotG, as all your lists have at least one. This list is only 3 drops. Allegiance: Seraphon Mortal Realm: Aqshy Leaders Slann Starmaster (260) - General - Trait: Great Rememberer - Artefact: Incandescent Rectrices Engine of the Gods (220) - Artefact: Ignax's Scales Skink Starpriest (80) Battleline 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers 10 x Skinks (60) - Boltspitters & Star Bucklers Units 6 x Ripperdactyl Riders (280) Battalions Shadowstrike Starhost (180) Endless Spells Chronomantic Cogs (60) Balewind Vortex (40) Total: 1240 / 1250 Extra Command Points: 1 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 59 However, if you're dead set on not using Shadowstike, I'd take list #3. 3x Rippers can still do work, but I'd rather have that 2nd unit of 4x Razordons. I would consider dropping a unit of Skinks for the Cogs, as well.