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dipping method

Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by mugiwara, Jan 18, 2009.

  1. mugiwara
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    mugiwara New Member

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    have anyone try this trick? i'm planning to paint my LZ green scheme and would like to hear from you guys about the dipping method
     
  2. stu
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    Personally i can't stand this method of painting. It looks horrible and the paint looks to thick. But i am slightly more into the painting side of the hobby. Selective drybrushing is a good technique to speed paint and looks much nicer than dipping.
     
  3. strewart
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    I have tried it with Tyranids, it can look really good but in general it does go on very thick and I think it is much better to just paint them yourself. By the time you dip the model, shake it off and leave it to dry for 24 hours, then usually fix the feet it ends up better to just drybrush and ink.

    Do a bit of a google search, there are a lot of tutorials around. They will tell you the right type of stuff to get. Definitely only do one test model to start with and see how it goes, the stuff is tough to get off if you don't like it or it obscures too much detail. And it would probably work better if thinned, but then it is basically an ink anyway..
     
  4. joey goldcoast
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    I was asked a similar question on another forum, here was my reply

    So what is Dipping?

    Dipping began as the technique of taking a figure in base coat colours, and submerging it into a wood-stain. The excess wood stain has to then be shaken off, then the figure is left to dry, and (should) be of excellent table top quality. After some experimentation the technique developed from a 'dip and shake' to a 'paint the dip' when the stain is applied in a controlled fashion with a brush.
    Dipping Tips

    1: The figure has to be dust free. That means that you should probably not dip something that has been lying around for a while.
    2: The figure has to be mounted on a sturdy base. It will have to take some serious shaking/spinning.
    3: The wood stain is best used outside, due to the odour, and the spray caused by the excess dip.
    4: When Spinning the figure, do it pointing upright rather than down.
    5. Don't bother painting on the eyes before you dip, they get drowned in stain and you have to paint them on again later.
    6: When making larger models try dipping the pieces separately.
    7: Unlike model paint wood stain is not water-based, if it is too dark for you then you can use white-spirit as a thinner (too much can cause the glaze to crack though).
    8: Too much dip can accumulate in some of the larger crevices on a model (welling up), a brush can be used to remove the excess dip before it dries.

    Looking at the larger flatter expanses, there are two problems.
    7. The dip has to dry whilst the surface is flat. Otherwise, it will pool
    8. The dip has to be removed from the surface evenly. Otherwise, it will streak

    New-Wave Dipping

    A later development in dipping resulted in no actual 'dipping' occurring at all, the stain is merely painted on with a brush, allowing you more control and the ability to use different shades of dip on different areas. In essence it is the same as if you were 'inking' the model only thicker (any excess still needs to be removed though).

    Once applied remember to hold or support the model upside down for the varnish to run upwards into the higher recesses of the miniature. Before 10 mins is up, turn the model right way up for the excess varnish to settle downwards again.

    As a final note the new GW washes work really well and I personally prefer them to dipping because you can use various colours on different areas. Or if speed is your thing then brightly painted models washed with badab black is very quick.
     
  5. benrolls
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    people actually do this?? :jawdrop: heathens.
     
  6. stu
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    i know! Where's the love in dipping your models in paint?!
     
  7. natpat
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    Yea, its ridiculous. It is wrong!
     
  8. joey goldcoast
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    Did you actually read my post, You dont dip your models in paint. You dip in either woodstain or a very very very watered down paint/water mix or you can use the new washes as a dip, also watered down.

    It gives table top results very very quickly.

    Read the post I made and then make your judgements.
     
  9. benrolls
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    seriously! where's the fun in it? sure if you want rows upon rows of painted stuff really quickly then dip away. i would prefer to paint my lizards individually so you know each one you paint. there is no fun in dipping. it's just lazy.
     
  10. joey goldcoast
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    not really a style that needs to be applied with lizardmen, but however if you had a 2000 pt Imperial guard army, Nids or Orks which could easily see your troops getting towards 100 models then dipping/washes comes into its own. But as this is a Lizard man forum i see your point. however my article was genralized for all GW models.
     
  11. Aparach
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    I got a friend who tried dipping and I think he got amazing results! Especially when you'r short on time. Me for instance, havn't had time to paint in about 1-2 month... Looking forward to easter :)
     

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