8th Ed. League List discussion (500/700/900/1100/1300/1500)

My local game shop is holding an escalation league... starting at 500 points. Having never played lizards I bought some and figured this would be a good way to start. At first I thought of starting with a bunch of skinks but Im afraid of the Ld6... So here is my list for the 500 points.... Comments please...

1 Saurus Scar-Vet, Light Armor, Shield, Venom of the Firefly Frog
24 Saurus Warriors, Banner
10 Skinks
10 Skink Skirmishers

499 total...

 

Re: 500 points - New to Lizards help!

ahh.. Forgot to mention that in the first two rounds of the league no rares or lords are permitted... :\
but I do have a Salamander and he will be int here at some point

 

Re: 500 points - New to Lizards help!

I think your list is pretty solid. Before the 7th Edition Lizardmen and before 8th Edition Warhammer, I used a similar list at a tournament, and got two wins and a draw (although I did use the infamous Jaguar Saurus of Doom - movement 9 scar veteran!).

However, Lizardmen are Cold-Blooded, so Skinks don't run as much as other Leadership 6 troops might do. Saurus are a speed bump for cavalry (or at least anything you'll see at 500 points), and skinks can be a real irritation for your opponent.

 

Last night was the first night of the League. I ran the above list and was paired against some VC. I have to say, the Scar-Vet with Venom of the Firefly Frog was MVP vs VC! He alone was responsible to killing 5 Hexwraiths, a tomb wraith and about 10 skeletons! Saurus made short work of his corpse hounds and skeleton horde while Skinks hung out and watched.

On a side note, in another game VS a different VC player the skinks did their job! redirecting smaller units and hounds while the Saurus beared down on his main unit with Necromancer.

All in all I feel the list was pretty solid... and I didnt miss magic at ALL!

Next league list is 900 points.... (No rares, No Lords)

Saurus Scar-Vet, Light Armor, Shield, Venom of the Firefly Frog, Dragonhelm

24 Saurus Warriors, Banner/Muso

10 Skink Skirmishers

1 Stegadon, great bow


I do not know who I am paired against yet, comments please!

 

Did you get a look at what other races are playing in the tournament? It might help everyone else give you more useful tips and suggestions.

For example, did you see a lot of races that like to use war machines? (bretts, dwarves, tombking). Because in that case most people will tell you to add chamo skinks, etc.

Also, if you may have notice any list that have a tendency for a build. For example, are there WoC that are magic heavy? You might get suggestions to take a scroll and/or a cube with you, which involves adding a Priest to your list.

 

Yeah thats a good point. The armies in the league include!

Skaven
Vampire Counts x2
Ogres x2
Chaos Warriors
Goblins
Bretonnians
Lizards (me)
High Elves

 

I've never played tournaments so I may not be the right person to be handing out advise but for the spread I see I think you're going to want to field more than just one salamander. There are at least 5 armies that have the capability to bring a lot of cheap units to the board which will have you outnumbered. Sallies will be great to deal with all this excess. If you could I'd go for 2 teams of 1 with snack or a team of 3.

You've done good against ethereal but it looks like you haven't seen the last of them. With the number of games and the number of players it looks to me like you'll end up facing them one more time (if not twice). An inexpensive way to deal with them would be to add Banner of Eternal Flame to your list at some point. That involves getting a BSB or taking one of the two special units that can carry magic banners (CoR or TG).

 

Oh I knew he wouldn't in this next game but I know that later on he will. Also, I forgot to mention that the Banner will help against Ogres that cast Troll Guts (4+ regen) on a unit. If your banner unit gets stuck in combat with ogres and your opponent decides to cast troll guts on them let him get it off because you'll deny the benefit. That way he wastes two power dice. It'll only work once per battle (if your opponent doesn't make the same mistake twice) but is still a nice bonus for one magic phase.

 

I agree that I need to find a way to get in some Flaming attacks due to 2x Ogres and 2x Vamps. The units the banner can go in are kind of expensive for this point lvl, and I feel a BSB could be better equiped, than with a 10 point banner. My thoughts were to use the Burning Blade of Chotec instead of the Firefly Venom. This would give me access to magic attacks AND negate Regen. Since the Scar-Vet strikes BEFORE the Saurus the attacks would negate regen on the unit and they would lose regen while the Saurus are attacking. Correct? Plus a -2 AS isnt bad either!

 

I think you're right. I don't have the books right in front of me but I think the regen is denied if they suffer from a fire attack on that same phase. Good thinking!!

 

Next league round is 700 points and Im playing Ogres...

Scar-Vet, Light Armor, Shield, Burning Blade of Chotec

24x Saurus Warriors, HW/Sh, Banner/Musician
10x Skink Skirmishers
1 Stegadon

whatcha think?

I would like more protection on my Scar-Vet, but at this points lvl it may not matter...

 

Instead of the Burning Blade, I went with Firefly Venom and a Dragonhelm.

Lizardmen destroyed some Ogres last night! Next is 900 points.. I wil be adding a Champ to the Saurus, Talisman of Endurance on the Scar-Vet and a pair of Salamanders, with extra handlers!!

 

At 900 points the League Comp says no Lords and no duplicate rares.. so if I take 2 Salamanders I have to keep them in one unit.

I was very impressed with the Giant Bow on the Stegadon... granted I got lucky and rolled 6 twice!!!

 

Thanks for your replies!

At this point my 900 point escalation league list is looking to be:

Scar-Vet, Light Armor, Shield, Venom of the Firefly Frog, Dragonhelm, Amulet of Itzl

24 Saurus Warriors, FC
10 Skink Skirmishers
1 Stegadon
2 Salamanders with one extra handler

total: 897 (I could go more aggressive and trade the Shield for a Great Weapon on the Scar-Vet?)

Thinking to go with the following at 1100

Scar-Vet as above
Skink Priest, lvl-2, Plaque of Tepok
24 Saurus Warriors, FC
19 Skinks, Musician
10 Skink Skirmishers
1 Stegadon
2 Salamanders

My issues are:
At what point should I try getting the Burning Blade of Chotec on my Scar-Vet for VC and Ogre regen?
At what point should I look at a BSB
The last lvl of the league is 1500 points, do I go with a Slann then, or is that too many points to invest at such a low point lvl? (Slann plus Guard)

 

So I guess in round 3 (900 pts) my opponent is Orcs and Goblins...
Im thinking the Salamanders and Stegadon should be pretty good here with terror and panic checks to go around on Ld 6-7!