Ok so I am back! stumbled across another hax unit. Last time it was phoenix guard, this time it is Skaven Storm Fiends. specifically the ones with 3 miniguns strapped to them. They have: (Please delete this bit if there is a rule against posting rules) 18" range 3x d6 shots per model (misfires on a triple) Str5, AP Skirmishers Move and shoot No range penalty Stand and shoot charge reaction Still lethal in CC (not against a scar vet as it turns out ) Luckily my opponent only fielded 1 with guns, but he could field a unit of 3 for a mere 255pts! I have two questions: 1- They are an end times unit, can they be played in normal WHFB games or only games that are using end times rules? 2- If the answer to the above is "yes he can use them", what is the best strategy to deal with them?