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8th Ed. Why Bastiladon?

Discussion in 'Lizardmen & Saurian Ancients Tactics' started by Drmooreflava, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. SilverFaith
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    I seem to have missed this conversation. What is the problem here?
     
  2. Scalenex
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    It's perfectly legal to have a monster point his butt at the enemy though it's a little crass.
     
  3. SilverFaith
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    Though to be fair, the monster itself should be perfectly aware of how strong its own tail is, and thus it would make perfect sense to position itself in a manner that allowed for her powerful tail swipe.

    I prefer imagining it as the Bastiladon moving forward, then making a spin at the approaching enemies.

    Though it is a bit difficult to pull off, since it means you don't get to beam the enemies, nor charge them if they decide not to.
     
  4. Sleboda
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    The sentence structure used for the tail attack makes for two completely equally valid interpretations. I go with the less powerful one that says in order to get +1 to hit and S10, the attack needs to be to the rear.

    Others read it as it being S10 all the time, and +1 to hit if the attack is made to the rear.
     
  5. SilverFaith
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    Oh.

    Funny, I hadn't even thought of that interpretation. I normally just play it as 1 S10 attack with +1 to hit, that is only possible to be used against units in the rear.

    Though I see the logic behind the other argument. After all, it should still be able to thrash around and smaack things with that enormous tail - it is just far easier to hit those already standing near the tail.

    Of course, logic =/= actual game mechanics and rules. So that's a pretty weak argument.
     
  6. NexS1
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    See, i never read it that way at all... I'm going to have to re-read it when i get home.
    I always read it as 2x str4 attacks and 1x Str10 attack. +1 to hit if they're in the rear.

    Using the other logic, would not every attack be strength 10 then?
     
  7. Gringold
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    It is pretty ambiguous.

    I would guess the Bastiladon gets two S4 attacks and one S10 attack and the S10 attack gets a bonus to hit against a model in the rear arc.

    If they intended the S10 attack to only be used against a model in the rear arc, there are numerous ways it could've been written more clearly. "If attacking a model in the creature's rear arc, nominate one of the..." Or "Against models in the creature's rear arc, this attack is resolved at Strength 10 and receives..."

    Edit: This may or may not be of value, but the 2014 ETC FAQ had this very question on it:

     
  8. NexS1
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    I agree with this :)
     

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