8th Ed. New rumours - pre-order 4th of July, picture inside

- the 9th edition rules aren't going to be the big jump that moving from 7th edition to 8th was.
- there are going to be 3 versions of Warhammer. The Age of Sigmar - recommended for point totals 500 to 1,500 and will be a skirmish style game. The Age of Steel - Warhammer as we all played it over the last 5 years. The End Times - magic heavy and 50% lords & heroes (and Lore of Undeath).
- power dice are now a base of 2D6 (4D6 for End Times) up to 2,000 points, add another power dice for every 1,000 points after that so fielding a 4,000 point army would roll 4D6 Winds of Magic or 6D6 in the End Times.
- lots of new spells though the #6 spells all allow Ward Saves
- new magic items. Some went away, some new ones arrived.
- 8th edition measuring still exists
- Regeneration now works like a War Hydra, dead models come back with a single wound on a 4+ (I think Plaguebearers just won Warhammer)
- Lances do impact his on the charge
- Spears are +1ST if they hold against "mounted units"
- ASF has changed. Units that charge get ASF vs the unit they charge.
- Fear as now but tests are at -1 leadership, Terror at -2 (BSBs are still OP)
- Killing Blow does D3 wounds
- Heroic Killing Blow still kills everything
- characters riding monsters have a merged profile (which I presume is why cannons are still going shout '10 from the back!'...)
- Steadfast can be lost with a single rank of 5 in the flank. Units cannot be Steadfast against anything that can Thunderstomp them
- 2D6 Scenarios and a much broader terrain chart
- models lose half their charge roll distance if they clip terrain (think of it as toned down 7th edition terrain rules) though dangerous terrain is still in effect (1s to wound for models that take dangerous terrain tests)
- new building rules though they still look bad
- combat resolution - outnumbering is back
- holding table quarters is back too


So our spear units got better and so did our monster units. Essentially this have made infantry quite weak and monsters quite good. If true. How weird considering we are a monster/infantry centric army xD

Eat with a spoon of salt

 

Whineseer of course. I actually read the ASF thingy as if the actual ASF rule only works if you charge and not that everybody gain ASF if you charge.

I actually like gaining ASF from a charge much more because suddenly our spear guys became much, much better. They can hold again cavalry and be OP and charge against everything and be ridiculous.

 

I wonder.. if gaining ASF for the first round then mean that we strike at initiative in the following round? I'd be okay with that. Our CoRs would be immensly better just by gaining ASF for 1 round.

 

It doesn't say if the +1S/T is for infantry only though. Currently t here's a difference between cav and infantry spears so I'd assume that would translate into 9th edition as well.

I makes sense for me to give spear units a buff, but extra toughness? I'm all for that, but if wyssan's wildform is still a think we could end up having S/T6 saurus warriors. In that case... Come at us breh

 

I think the rules are bogus in all honesty. I hope not, but yeah.. why should *these* be real? With that said they give food for though and makes me all excited and giddy inside. I really do hope that at least some of the rules are true. I'd love for spears to be more viable and for us to have chance at actually attacking if we charge. Those two alone would change our army completely and make stuff like saurus warriors and CoRs all kinds of viable again.

Not to mention... Ripperdactyls actually getting a charge on their target. Yesterday we kinda agreed that wild riders are sick because they have ASF. If we can have that + hatred on our rippers they'll be mad good. I don't care if they all die if they can remove 14 white lions before they do so I believe Rippederrick made some very good example with math of what rippers can do in the flank of various units. There's no denying that if Rippes can deliver their payload they will, it's just that they need to be able to actually do so and currently being forced to pull a flank charge with their Ld5 frenzy is quite hard.

 

S5 saurus warriors would complelety change our look on them. What's our main issue for not using them? The abundancy of 1+/2+ armoured units hitting them first and removing so many that we won't be steadfast anyway. S5 would make saurus warriors quite decent against our n1 enemy (besides avoidance lists that it).

 

I guess we can just hope

Some of the changes listed would really improve the game imo. and give us a broader set of choices. Though it is all just speculations at this point I guess.

 

Congratulation. How do you feel about that?

 

In reality they really don't give 2 sh1ts about us, unfortunately. They've already stated this if I'm not mistakening. A new edition is just a way for them to generate money.