AoS Summoning

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    I just finished a game against a friend and we had some discussions about the summon spells (AoS).
    I thought that i just could choose any unit that has the summon command and try to summon it every turn. Hevtold me that i can only 'copy' units that are alteady on the table.
    I started doubting becaus ehe plays mutch longer than me but if I follow this rule the summon for named charcterd is impossible right?
     
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    Officially I don't think there is a rule that restricts you to only summon copies of what you already have. I believe that you can summon whatever you like, as long as you have the models.

    As far as I know, you could have as many of the same special character as you like, nowhere is it stated that you can only have one.

    I am not playing AOS though, but unless you are playing with house rules, you can summon whatever you like.

    You might want to come to an agreement with your friend though. Remember the so called "The Most Important Rule" :shifty:, in the end of the 4 page ruleset.
     
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    And i know its the most important rule but the rules of setting up your game says: only 1named charcter of each character so no 2 gor roks
     
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    Where is that? I cannot seem to find it
     
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    Its how to set up your army but i don't know were to find it a friend copied it for me
     
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    I think he might have copied a house ruled version or something with restrictions. It makes sense, but I don't think it is the GW version. I cannot anyway find where it is stated that you can only have one named character.

    You can check it out here, if you are interested.
     
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    Thanks but i have that rules to :)
     
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    Then I don't know why he said you can only have one of the same special character and only summon copies of what you already have. I think you should talk to him about it, that might be the easiest solution. (Or you could wait and see if anyone more knowing than I, in the ways of AOS, answers this thread)
     
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    I talked to him but he got mad because his dad told me that i was right
     
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    I think his experience with aos isn't that much bigger than yours...;) and this summoning thing cause trouble all over. Don't take it to personal and clarify by house rules...
     
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    Good idea :p
     
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    The sensible solution is all name characters are unique and can only be summoned if they are not already on the table.

    Why GW didn't include the keyword "UNIQUE" on named character warscrolls is beyond me.
     
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    I see the opposite as the house rule. The rules to summon a unit are on that unit, not the wizard.

    How can you use a rule from a unit that is not even present in your game?
     
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    And the discussion continues...:p
     
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    Oh god :eek:

    Lets just say we have different interpretations of that, and leave it at that for now... hmm?

    Lord Kroak
    The easy thing to say is: Find out what you think makes sense and play with that.
     
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    Slebola
    You know that on a warscroll don't care wich one a rule says all slanns know this spell
     
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    Having just played a few games where my roomie summoned a shit ton, I think its better to spread and accept the "copy" and "unique" rules. Such as Lord Kroak cant summon another Kroak because that wouldn't make sense, as well as you can't summon out of thin air.

    For example if we're playing a two warscroll game, he shouldn't be able to summon Bel'Achor and a Soul grinder when he started out with a chaos priest and some letters. Thats just bs. Just like I hsouldn't be able to field a 10 scroll army off of one slaan. Its silly.
     
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    On summoning in my group we play Summoning allowed to units that are part of your army. So if my army does not have a Croxigor then my Slaan cannot summon it. It works just fine up until now.
     
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    Can you summon units through an Arcane Vassal?
     
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    But since the game actually goes against the "two warscroll" restriction then the above doesn't make any sense unless you are house ruling summoning to work with your house ruling of how many warscrolls to bring. FYI I personally agree with the above and play that way most of the time, but I am pointing out that the rules do not support it.
     
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