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AoS Seraphon alliance

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Tizianolol, Dec 25, 2016.

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  1. Tizianolol
    Temple Guard

    Tizianolol Active Member

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    if i play a mono seraphon list with seraphon alliance can i chose order stuffs? I know that ironjawz now can..something is changed for seraphon too?;)
     
    Tizianolol, Dec 25, 2016
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  2. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Yes.

    It's in the FAQ for the General's handbook.

    Q: How do you determine which Grand Alliance a unit belongs to?
    A: The Grand Alliance a unit belongs to is defined by the keywords on its warscroll; so, if a unit has the Order keyword, it is part of the Order Grand Alliance.


    ...and merry Xmas! :)
     
    Killer Angel, Dec 25, 2016
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    Thx, marry Christmas !!:)
    So I can put my guards battleline and still use order stuff?;)
     
    Tizianolol, Dec 25, 2016
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    Slann

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    Absolutely yes, it has been furtherly clarified in GW's facebook page.

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    Killer Angel, Dec 25, 2016
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  5. Bowser
    Slann

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    Yes, they did this to keep things competitive for the old alliances against the new models.
     
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    That's fantastic..so I don't need 3x10 skinks .. Idk maybe I play only 2x10 for defend objectives in particular maps:)
     
    Tizianolol, Dec 25, 2016
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    Wait... hold on, you can get Saurus guards as your 3 battleline units? And still get other order units like the celestial hurricanum?

    That would be amazing! :)
     
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    It is, indeed. ;)
     
    Killer Angel, Dec 25, 2016
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  9. Nielspeterdejong
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    Nice! :D What else did they add for the Grand allegiances?

    Btw, Killer, could you take a look at my post here? http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/best-options-for-order-wizards.18755/ I'm about to start painting with my brother, and next month we have a tournament, so I wanted to know what you feel would be the best order Wizard in each army? :)
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Dec 25, 2016
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  10. Tizianolol
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    Mmm im not sure if you can consider guards battleline if you play hurricanum..because hurricanum havn t seraphon keywords:(
     
    Tizianolol, Dec 26, 2016
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    Slann

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    You still can, it just wouldn't benefit from the abilities.
     
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  13. Drcrabs
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    Sorry for resurrecting this thread a bit but I was having a discussion with my friends about this topic. I was going over lists and found that I had 40 points left over and was looking to fill the void. Noticed a single Gryph-Hound fitted in quite nicely. My friends felt like I couldn't use my Saurus Guard as battleline and have the Hound in my list. So I guess what I'm asking is based on your quote, Bowser, is what wouldn't benefit from what abilities? I wish GW was a little more clear about this issue with army composition correctness :confused:
     
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    Slann

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    Not as cut and dry as I had assumed. At this point this is contended, and you would have to house rule it. The way I had originally understood it was that you didn't get the battle trait, but the elites as battleline, then was told you get both. Still looking for more clarity
     
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    Yeah, I fear that with a Gryph-Hound you can only pick Order Allegiance.
    That said, about those 40 pts... do you have also a Slaan? 'cause you could simply summon a trio of handlers upon an objective. ;)
     
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    I guess for now I'll just stick with my original idea to have all Seraphon with my current army. I actually don't have a Slann to summon them but I was thinking of just using the skink handlers anyways, it's goofy but it's better then nothing I suppose! :D
     
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    Using Handlers as chaff can also be funny, I did that twice when I had 40 points left and that way I could prevent a charge against my lines. At least for one round.
    As for the Hound: Yeah it is a pity. ....especially since I bought a set of Hounds last week... But then I play neither Knights nor Guards so I might just take Order allegiance.
     
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    To take seraphon allegiance all units inn you're list must have the seraphon key word, or be part of a seraphon formation.
    You can then choose to use the seraphon trait, artefacts and ability.
    Or the trait, artefacts and ability of you're grand allegiance.
     
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    So to take Knights as battleline with a hurricanum in the list I could use Firelance?
     
    Solabar, Feb 27, 2017
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    As far as I understood:
    No, you can't use the Hurricanum and still take those as Battleline. It doesn't matter if the Knights are in a Battaillon, for this to work the Hurricanum would have to be in a Bataillon.

    EDIT: For Sylvaneth for example it would work. The "Gnarlroot Wargrove" bataillon warscroll allows you to take any ORDER wizard. You could take a Seraphon Starpriest or a Hurricanum and still keep Sylvaneth allegiance because the bataillon it belongs to has the right keyword.

    EDIT: As far as I know Seraphon have no such a warscroll bataillon.
     
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