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AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Seraphage, Jun 26, 2017.

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  1. Dimitris
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    Yeah i know but i wonder if u realize why i asked for the points whatsoever? Aginor rly understood me there that ehy he sended me that link
     
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  2. Nukes4life
    Saurus

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    you asked for the points because you were too lazy to look yourself? and there is a link in my message as well if you'd care to click on it
     
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  3. Dimitris
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    Hmm the idk about lazy maybe busy is the right word[/QUOTE]
     
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    He hasn't been changed apart from his cost, it was always just models in range. I suppose he can sit in the middle of a line of guard reaching probably 10 models so it's not terrible. But justifying him at 100 was hard. Now he's out for me..
     
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    Ooof, a little bit harsh!
    I can see his command ability being quite powerful certainly for smaller 1000pt games, you could get a unit of saurus warriors 6" from charging on a teleport and really do some damage without having lost any of the horde and getting that double attack bonus on 3's and 4's. With 25 models in range to attack, you'd send out 13-20 wounds to save with your spears.
     
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  6. Dimitris
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    Is ok mate i got this:D also i am a little lost for what model they talk about?
     
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  7. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yeah I rarely used him as well, but with hordes becoming stronger any ability to improve their movement is pretty valuable. Combined with the fact that we have great movement now anyway his ability has become much more valuable. I would say those 20 points more are worth it.
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Saurus Oldblood.
     
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  9. Dimitris
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    I see :D btw is there a way to convert a saurus oldblood from start collecting to have the gauntlet and the shield? As a solo unit?
     
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  10. Nukes4life
    Saurus

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    But you would have to use the 2 teleports and waste one on the oldblood. Does give an almost guaranteed charge with the rerolls but still feels a little meh to me
     
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    Saurus

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    I am very tempted to try out a Sunclaw Starhost with an Oldblood and Slann with Great Rememberer (or leaving the oldblood in reserve).

    By either doing the double teleport or teleport/summon you end up with a 6" charge range horde, buffed by the Sunclaw battalion and if you are really sneaky the astrolith too. That throws out a lot more damage. If you throw a skink priest or a mystic shield (or both) in there then even better.

    Really expensive mind!


    Edit: Realised you'd need to Summon the Oldblood (on a 4+ with Astrolith) as he would need to be the general to use his trait so no great rememberer.
     
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  12. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Well, if you ignore the teleport for now, and just look at a unit of 40 Saurus marching around on a table that does have some pieces of terrain on it you will see his benefits I think. Such large units are so clumsy, except in very open terrain, those 3" can make a big difference.

    EDIT: And also you could just summon him. Reserve the points, port two Saurus units, and then summon the Oldblood behind them. Summon value of 5 is rather easy.
     
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  13. Dimitris
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    Yeah but am so tempted to make the sunclaw starhost with 40 warriors and a sunblood supported with a starpriest or a scar veteran xD the tactic looks dope :D
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yeah we have SO many synergies going, previously our bad movement hampered us a bit with that so we often couldn't use them that well.
    Now with the teleport suddenly A LOT more tactics are open allowing us to use all those sweet synergies. :)
     
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  15. Dimitris
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    Yeah altho am halfway trhough on making the thunderquake battalion 2 bastilados kroxigor salamaders etc and a slann :D
     
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  16. Dimitris
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    Btw in order to ua the teleport u gonna have to have a slann ?
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    No, that is our allegiance ability. You can always use it.
    But if you have a Slann as your general you can choose one command trait for him that allows you to teleport twice instead of once per round as long as your general is alive.
     
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  18. Dimitris
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    Woah good to know :D
     
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    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    With the GHB2017 the Slann really went from "meh, played it once, he's mediocre" to "he's awesome and in half of my lists".

    That being said: There are some cool things for the others as well. Just the Skinks are not-so-good generals because none of them has a cool command ability. But you could play a Skink horde list making use of that double rites command trait and using Inspiring Presence to minimize battleshock.
     
    Aginor, Sep 1, 2017
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  20. Dimitris
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    Well that explaina the skink chief nerf any good saurus command trait tho?Also a skink horde woukd have been so awesome aloglng with skink chameleons
     
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