AoS Razordons Vs. Salamanders GHB17 edition

Hey guys!

I know the Razordon vs Salamander is an old subject of debate, both being really good at what they do, but I feel like we need to stir up the conversation since the new meta just might shift in favor of hordes and melee armies.

I believe that Sallies were used for big multi wounds models and Razordons were more of a multimodel unit killers. Considering the shift in the meta we're about to experience (probably), I would say that the Razordons now edge the Sallies by a great margin.

What do you guys think?

 

This, how is a box of 6 gryph-hounds only £15 and one salamander with 3 skinks £18.50?

 

Ah you're probably right, but lets face it, they'd still probably not cost that much to produce.

 

But what did they change about the salamanders and razordons?

 

As of the General's Handbook 2017, the only change is in points to both these models, which is 60pts to 40pts. What I think needs adressing is the fact that the meta is changing towards large, horde armies, which I think benefits more the Razordons.

 

My answer Is simple :
-salamanders in gh16 because meta was low Number of model with good saves
- razodont at moment , o we can t know meta because we played not many game with new book! But i think this Is hords meta.gh17 changes make me think that!!

 

We've got Stegadon with Sunfire Throwers, Kroxigor with Maces, and hordes of Saurus and Skinks to deal with hordes. I'm not too worried about that. Salamanders are the cheapest model we have for taking down large, heavily armed targets.

Of course I'm also old school from before razordons and hate the new sally/razor models so haven't bought any since 2000 I believe? So I could be biased.

 

You don't like the Razordon models? I'm thinking they look great painted up right. All the spikey-things like a porcupine dinosaur. Super threatening!

 

I suppose. I like the straight up dinosaur look better. Maybe a smaller version of the ankylodon (I mean Bastiladon).

I guess to restate my post from above you need to consider all the elements of your army and see which you need more -- lots of small, horde clearing shooting or a few hard hitting, high rend shots to take down behemoths and defensive juggernauts.

I feel that Seraphon generally does very well against Horde armies by having lots of options to deal with them (almost as if we were designed to fight Skaven and Demons! Shocker!) whereas we can struggle against harder targets.

 

Biggest problem of salamanders ain't even the huge dollar cost but the appearance.. like.. holy moly. I am not comparing it with the newest model. Just put it alone somewhere and look at it. How could they approve something that ugly ? This is so NOT gw imo. If I could pick a new release or remake of salamnders i d go for remake anytime. New awesome models can wait. We need to get rid of those things

 

Please link to check it out ??

 

It's like 70% but could you show us a photo next to our army ??

 

Hahaha ! Who needs rend anyway?! That would be fun though!