AoS Saurus underpowered?

Almost all Saurus units seem to be very underpowered and die farily easily. And don't usually seem to do enough damage. I'm talking from experience, is there ways anyone has found that makes them better? And/or what ways could/should they be buffed to make them more viable?

 

Okay, maybe I'll try those out.
As for updating their stat line, what do you think would work? I've speculated changing Saurus battleline to have +1 to their wound characteristic so Warriors and Guard would have 2 and knights would have 3. That way there more akin to Chaos Warriors and Knights. Would this be too overpowered or a much needed boost?

 

what is your loadout and how many do you field? because I have a squad of 40 Saurus with spears so they can attack 2 lines in. I like using them as a tar pit because they are so numerous. they usually hold a unit for the entirety of a game. if they are supported by dinos and or skink skirmishers they could do well. what I like to do (when fighting melee army like Khorne) is to make them hold down something like blood warriors and let my rippers fly past them and get the priests in the back while my Saurus knights cycle charge them from the back by teleporting them out of combat every hero phase and making them charge back in again. If you keep that up you will melt high tier units. you can also bring in a sun blood and get them in that battalion.

 

you can also keep summoning new units if it ever does get destroyed.

 

I see a lot of people writing that this is the way to get anything out of Saurus Knights, but just so its clear to me: In order for the cycling to work, you've gotta consistantly make 9" charges - correct?

 

yes and no because if you roll a 3-4 then yes you have to roll a 9" but if you roll a 5-6 then you can do a 3" charge

 

Keep a scar-vet on cold one nearby, his command ability makes their charges more likely & considerably more powerfull.

Meh, for warriors I'd say they should swap their horde bonus with the sunclaw bonus. With the rend & extra bite they'd become worthwhile at minimum size as they still might not be heavy infantry, but they would be hitting deceptivly hard for such a small unit. The sunclaw bonus can then be to be a horde bonus, but preferably threating the entire battalion as a horde (so horde bonusses as long as the battalion as a whole has x+ models), making it a tad easier to maintain as the Obvious solution won't be to just nuke the big blob anymore.

Also, our shields should just be changed to reduce rend by a fixed amount regardless of what we face, not just ignore -1 rend. At least then it'd also help against higher levels of rend.

That together would probably be enough to balance warriors without needing any point changes.

Knights mostly just need their mortal wounds mechanic altered to be reliable.

Guards need more wounds & (some) mortal wound protection in exchange they can lose some offensive power (especially the D3 damage of the eternal stormhost is weirdly offensive power for a guard unit)

 

bring two units of knights, fall back one unit charge with the other, rotate and repeat.

 

I run 2 units of 40 in my Fangs list. I've found them to be pretty effective most of the time, it's just hard to compare to the pure efficiency of Death or DoK.

 

oh we are not an efficient army. our win strategy is " MORE SKINKS THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY DEAL WITH!!!!"

 

I would leave saurus more or less the same as they are now, but with an extra wound and maybe a bit cheaper and/or of comparable price to ironjawz ardboyz. I feel as though warriors would be good bit more formidable, and maybe even make guard worthwhile.

 

I like taking units of 40 i would be worried an extra wound would cut their max size down.

I'd rather see their horde bonuses stay as long as the unit starts with that many models. And a 4+ save.

 

To be honest I'd just like both a horde and minimum sized units to be valid. The unit being completly defanged when it loses its horde bonusses is just kind of lame.

 

To bring Saurus up to scratch, I think they need to be made more killy, or more durable - but not necessarily both.

I do think this is likely coming when we get a battletome update (which I would bet is coming sooner rather than later) but these changes will probably be contingent on the direction that GW decide to take the Saurus lore-wise.

Our current lore doesn't really go into much detail on how Saurus operate on the battlefield (except Temple Guard) besides being "savage, bestial combatants" which is a theme reflected across our whole army anyway.

If Warriors and Knights are being painted as hyper-aggresive units, their statline needs to reflect that.

Warriors should perhaps work more like the Namarti Thrall of the Deepkin. Give them an extra attack and a bonus like even more attacks or better hit rolls against opposing horde infantry - justify it by saying lesser men/aelves are simply overpowered by their primeval reptilian brawn.

Knights need to be merciless and efficient killers (the complete opposite of what they are now). Keep their squishy 5+ save, but make them much faster and give both the mount and rider more attacks and -1 rend on both. And for the love of God, activate Blazing Lance's on hits rather than wounds. Better yet, activate Blazing Lances on unmodified 5s and 6s to hit when the Knights are fielded en masse. Hike up their points to balance them out - maybe even lock them out of being battleline unless you take a mounted Saurus as general.

My changes are probably viewed as drastic but I am so very tired of being forced to run a Slann and legions of skinks to keep pace with the LoN and DoK armies of my friends. I would happily take a hit to our very powerful summoning and teleporting abilities if it meant my beloved Saurus bros could pull their own weight.

 

yes, I initially came into the hobby because of Warhammer 2 and I was in love with the saurus. they where some of the most durable and unbreakable mid-tier unit and it could hold its own against most foes so I was disappointed when my much-loved saurus got stomped by orks and co. its really unfortunate as they can really just fight hordes instead of medium level dudes.

 

Since both FEC and Skaven battletomes seems all about overbuffed cheap infantry blobs (according to my fellow players), I expect saurus to be same level of power with tons of attacks, easy access to reroll hits and wounds and increased damage. Not that I'm liking it, though.