AoS Tactics for upcomming tournament with Thunderquake

Hi Guys,

End of this month I have a tournament coming up. And already have the missions available.
Which gives me loads of time to fantasize and plan my battles. I'd like to share with you, and curious about your thoughts on the tactics.

My list:

Allegiance: Seraphon
Mortal Realm: Shyish

Leaders
Slann Starmaster (260)
- General
- Trait: Great Rememberer
- Artefact: Incandescent Rectrices
Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160)
Engine of the Gods (220)
- Artefact: Ethereal Amulet

Battleline
10 x Skinks (60)
- Meteoric Javelins & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (60)
- Boltspitters & Star Bucklers
10 x Skinks (60)
- Boltspitters & Star Bucklers

Units
3 x Kroxigor (160)
4 x Razordons (160)
3 x Ripperdactyl Riders (140)

Behemoths
Bastiladon (280)
Bastiladon (280)

Battalions
Thunderquake Starhost (120)

Endless Spells
Balewind Vortex (40)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 102


Mission 1 (note, wrong map displayed, we use the normal Escalation map, map of mission 3)


My thoughts:

Deployment:
This one is though with the thunderquake my Bastiladons have to start way in the back. I believe the EotG isn't a behemoth. And I need to put my skinks on the 9" line. So really hope to avoid a deepstrike army.
So skinks on the 9" line spread out evenly, Basti's on the 24" line, and the rest on the 18" line. I think to put the rippers on one flank, and the razordons on the other flank. Since the rippers can catch up with the skinks, and the razordons have a threat range of 20". Which could help on the decreasing the amount of models on the objective. The rest wil be put on the center, hiding behind the EotG and near the Krox for LoS.
I think I still want to go second (each game is a roll of, who finished deployment first wins ties), since I cant score points in the first battle round, and want to have the double turn initiative.
My plan is to hopefully teleport both basti's to the front in range of the center objective, but in the probable range of the EotG and Astrolith for the buff. And wont use the balewind on t1, so my slann can also move forward and keepup with the EotG (I shouldnt run right?), to be safely in the deathstar later. With aprox 12-15 CCP I think I'll just keep on pumping out skinks. Maybe a second unit of rippers, if I run out of skinks (I have 70 in total, 30 on the field).
Although Aqshy has some nice spells aswel. Especially Inferno Blades (see below) sounds fun on the rippers. With the balewind, astrolith and channeling through the EotG the slann has a huge range.

My few doubts are:
- Go first or second?
- Should I run?
- Is the EotG a Behemoth?
- Should I focus on all 3 objectives? Or just thunderquake on the middle one, and rippers/skinks/razordons on a other one, too just effectively hold 2 of the 3 objectives.










This one I have less concerns about. I think i'll put the thunderquake on the home objective, but in range to shoot to the other 2 objectives. Put one unit of skinks in the back to zone out my rear. And send skinks+rippers to one side, and skinks+krox to the other side. And razordons in the middle. In range of the Astro and in range of one, or both middel objectives to clear some body's. Here also pump out skinks with CCP. But maybe sneak in some chameleon skinks on turn 3. So they can vanish on turn 4 and reappear on t5 to snatch their home objective, if not guarded with many wounds. With the slann probably cast a spell each turn. Curse of rust seems really nice. Also some nice other mortal wound spells available if needed.









This one could be tricky aswel. Thinking about grabbing the middle one with the EotG and the deathstar. But what about the other ones? The astro needs to stay close to the TQ. But dont really want to expose the slann.
I a grab and hold one objective for 5 turns I gross 15 points. I would just have to removes his hero's from the other objectives consistently, or let him hold for max 2 turns. Bestial Spirit and Flock of doom could help me push out some mortal wounds. To manage this. Also highly depends on the opponent.
Maybe I do push the slann out, but bubblewrap him and summon an Eternity warden turn 1.


Doubts:
- Does a teleport counts as a move? Or is it only: move, run, charge, retreat? Or just move.
- Go for one objective or for two?
- Should I take the middle one?
- Go first or second?

Love to hear your thoughts! And I'll try to make tons of photos for a battle report.

 

Wow that's comprehensive. I am at work and unable to comment on all of it at this time, however I would say that the kroxigors are not worth the points, and YES an EoTG is both a leader AND a Behemoth slot.

 

Thanks! I see it counts in the wascroll builer as a Behemoth, so thats a pitty. What is the actual ruling on behemoth? Hard to recognize what a behemoth is. It doenst have the keyword. And some Behemoths arent monsters. Is a monster always a behemoth?

 

actual ruling is whatever the generals handbook says they count as.

 

Oh thanks! That makes it very clear! Guess it makes my razordons artillery than. Bummer

 

They are indeed, which means 4 units of 4 each max. of course that will cost you 640 pts, and 480 (us) dollars.

 

The Krox are in the battalion. Rerolls for 3 razors + handlers has aprox the same dmg output of 4 razors. And Krox gerolling hit/wounds/saves and heal (is it 3 or 1 wound?) make them kinda okay.

 

Got some sweet advice for me?

 

Thanks alot for your indepth! I’ve never played with realm spell before. I now love the slann even more!

Going over the rulespack. I noticed there is nog major/minor win. You devide matchpoints depending on your point difference. Which I find a bummer. I love to know my win condition and just win by a few points on controlling the lead. Not a too risky approach for much victorypoints.

Any advice? Should I ‘go big or go home’ or just go for controle?

 

I think the Shadowstrike would be better for an all or nothing tournament like this. But i’ll stick to thunderquake. I dont get to play a lot of 2k games and prefer to play shadowstrike at 1k.
So my hopes are too win 2 of the 3 games and end in the top half. Top position isnt really achieveable since I do miss out on alot of painting point because I cant fully paint all the summoning models.

 

While I think about it. The distance for escalation isn’t that big of a problem. Below is based on my going 2nd in T2.
For my opponent to grab the objective, he need to be within 6”. With me starting 24” behind, I need to close a 30” gap with the bastiladons.
Thats 2 times the movement + the range of the solar engines. I could run them on t1 for some extra inches. Not really worried about mortal wounds on a run of 6+, with the 4+ save and the healing. But not sure if unesecarry risk.
If I take the gamble of teleporting, I’m sure i’ll miss one. Then I would need to succesfully teleport it next turn. Dont like that odds.

If I want to shoot with the razordons T2, I need to atleast close the 30” gap. 2 times movement +range sums up to 28”. If my opponent is smart enough. He would take the objective, but stay out of range. I could run them turn 1. But potentially losing 1 makes me not want to risk that. I could use the T1 teleport for them. If succesfull I could get in range of the opponent and shoot. And screen them with skinks in the movement phase. If not succesfull, I could try again T2.

The other teleport I could used for EotG to get it in range for the Azure Bolt, in case I roll 6-9.
I could also just move 8” T1 do be in range for T2. But I think I’ll risk the teleport. But if I miss it
I would need to make it next turn. If I fail both, but can roll for teleport, that would be okay aswell.

With teleport:
66% chance for t1 en t2 in range
22% chance for t2 in range
11% chance for not in range T1 en T2

With no teleport I could just be in range T2.
So with teleport only 11% chance of a worse result.

With that all combined I have:
- 66% chance to shoot T1 with razordons
- 22% chance to shoot T2 with razordons
- Same for the Engine of the Gods
- 0% to shoot with basti’s T1
- almost gauranteed shooting with basti if opponent goes for center objective.

If I’d try to teleport the basti’s t1. I would forgo good chance of shooting with razors and pass on the possible Azure Bolt from the EotG.
If I’m correct I also couldnt make them swift or savage the first turn.

The basti’s could possibly only get in range T2 by themselfs if I go second. If I do go first the second battleround, I could always try to teleport them than.

I do really want to go second on T2.
So if the choice is mine, should I go first T1, to win the ties for the T2 rollof. Or not risk in getting doubleturned. Ofcourse depending on the army Im facing.

 

Thanks! Was a really nice read! Why did you pick those artifacts and not others?