Poll: Stranded on a deserted island, which do you choose? + wild card round (page 5)

I hope not _only_ with that, though.
It would be kinda awkward to run around naked with those lesbians....
...and clothes are mighty useful (apart from their obvious use). Shoe strings come to mind. But clothes can also be used for various fishing techniques for example.

 

Well presumably the kidnappers will come get me when the ransom is paid. That shouldn't be a probably. A go-fund me on Lustria-Online will raise the ransom money fast.

 

As much as i appreciate (and agree with) the analysis, i would give at least additional 1-2 points to Group B, as the main utility of the freezer (food storage) is not included in the priorities points (yeah, it comes after the acquisition of the foot itself, but it's very important nonetheless).

Group C includes it somehow, as the dog food is considered safely stored.

 

EDIT:
Sniped. I wrote most of this before the post before this one.

That's a bit of a weird scale on first glance, I am not sure it really helps. But just for the lulz, let's take a look...

If the water bags (that's a pretty nice trick btw, I think I first saw it in a survival video a few years ago and was shocked to see that it is relatively easy) add 1 point for making fire already then the booze and gun powder should make it two points for A. It is really easy to make a fire, even from relatively bad wood, if you have alcohol and gunpowder to help starting it. A firearm is basically fire anyway....

Also: wait... the dog good is in cans?
That's cool. I assumed it was in bags.
I can also just use the crates the booze bottles come in to build my shelter?
That helps a lot.

Also interesting: hides of animals that can be hunted with the rifle are pretty good for making simple shelters (for the roof especially). That's a big advantage in addition to the help of the two girls.
Since the scale doesn't give more points for levels of usefulness that give above being a bit useful I am not sure it is great for assessing that situation.

You could also kill and eat the humans, OR just kill them and use them as bait for fish or predators. Why isn't that three points for A? And in addition to that: what is with such "OR" situations. That's something you face in all three options. (For example using the fishing net in B for the shelter, it is pretty useful for that. But then you won't be able to fish with it anymore).

And what about the booze? Booze contains 710 calories per 100ml and many alcoholic beverages also contain sugar. So the booze is food, too. And since bottles are great for building fish traps the booze also helps with getting more food. That's three points right there isn't it?

Also: the scale doesn't factor in the workload it seems? For example making fire in B. If you have tried making a fire by your own, compared to having one or more other people helping you, you will know that makes a big difference.

Same goes for B vs. the other two concerning food. Real fishing gear, especially a net, is so much better than primitive methods (such as spear fishing) that it probably saves you more than a day of work each week. That's vastly better.

And then of course the obvious aspect: doing two or three things at the same time... that should count for something.

 

The question for the shelter is: how much better does the C shelter really make the situation?


I'd be more inclined to agree if it
- wasn't filled with three tons of weed that you have to get out, alone to boot.
- had a hole in the roof (yeah sounds weird, but one of your problems will be getting cold, even in pretty warm climates. You have to make the fire close to yourself, inside the shelter, so you can be dry and warm).
- was portable (not important short term, but can become very important for long term survival).

But yeah it is a very good shelter, the shelter is by far the best thing in C. The knife is great but you can survive without it until you can improvise.
In fact I read about some survival guy who said he'd ditch his knife way before he'd ditch his axe.

 

Wait wait wait , now suddenly the sail boat is a resource, too? It is there all the time and you can use the stuff there????

You keep making C better and better...

A person in that situation would most likely still be dead after a few months, but for short term survival you are set with C now. Just kill the dogs, eat their (apparently now human-edible) dog food and live in a perfect shelter that never gets damp because it is of course in a perfect location that doesn't allow water in, and is of course warm enough so you don't need your fire in there, and the super dangerous animals are all far too dumb to just wait outside of it. And of course you can use all the sail boat stuff, too.




As for your question:
You should search for "survival shelter without tools". Some shelters are very easy to build, if there are at least some trees around. No need for a knife or axe.
They are not great shelters but they work in the conditions you mentioned.

 

It was there since the beginning, and i considered it in my decision.
It's not a canoe, it's a sailboat that needs repair.
I don't know what it can contain, but there must be something.

 

I kinda assumed that you find/salvage the sail boat after spending some time there. Otherwise the 12 years don't make a lot of sense.

 

Thinking on it, it's not an unlikely assumption...

 

The number of people that can do this in the "industrial countries" is getting fewer every year.

A few points:
-How many today know which of the plants in your region/country that you can eat, which one you can use for medicine.

-It is no longer common knowledge to know how to slaughter an animal, and how to prepare the meat properly for storage (or other food types).

-We live in a world where hunters are receiving death threats from people who have no idea where the food they buy in the store come from (and does not understand that when the natural predators are extinct in an area/country, this means that without hunting a deer will die a slow and horrible death with pain and starvation due to not being able to eat as their teeth go bad with age. I could go on, but you get the point.)

-The skill set and knowledge that our grandparents had are slowly dying with them, as they are not required in today's world.

If you have the possibility sit down with your grandparents and parents and ask questions on how they did things in the past, from techniques used to fertilize plants (before you started buying it premade at the store), to how the food was prepared for storage. etc. While this is not something you at this point in time really need, it is your heritage, and who knows, perhaps you or your kids will need this knowledge sometime in the future.

With time I hope to transfer what I have learned to my kids, but who knows if they want to listen and learn when they get to age.

 

For the initial survey, there are so many unknowns, making any choice similar to picking a lottery ticket.

You do not know the extent of vegetation, the type of vegetation / trees, the extent of fresh water, if there are stone types available to make tools like knives from.

It indicates that there is fish around, but that mostly depends on where the island is, and how easy it will be to catch is depending on the area/ground outside the island (Take a look on the US tv series Alone to see how fishing depends on the area and change with seasons).

And as mentioned in the previous post, unless you have previous experience with how people survived in the old days, I doubt you would survive more than a few years on any of the options at most.

 

And even if you know it for your home area (like the girl. She literally just continued living the way she had done it all the time, just without other people), you will be in huge danger elsewhere.

Some examples:
- there are fish that are edible when living in the open ocean, but the same species is poisonous in atolls, because they feed from corals and stuff that makes them poisonous for humans. You almost cannot know that.
- there is a type of Liana plant that you can crack open and drink the water from it. There is a VERY similar looking Liana that will kill you if you drink its water.
- fresh water in tropical environments contains a lot of pathogens that your body hasn't seen yet, and has no defenses against. If you don't know that then the diarrhea will get you. Diarrhea in such a situation can easily be your death. Especially when you are alone.
- there is a plant that looks quite similar to a tomato plant. But you cannot eat its fruits, only its roots (it is called potato). The fruits are poisonous. In fact all the green parts of the plant are.
- there might be harmless looking bugs that can kill you, and you don't know which ones. You might end up avoiding supplies because of the harmless ones.
- the natives know where tidal channels form in coast regions, and where the water pools, you might get surprised by that. Same goes for rain seasons and streams that form. Or animal behaviors that are dependent on certain factors (seal colonies come to mind. Some species of seal are easy peasy friendly dudes, except during mating season, then they will try and kill you).

 

That is very true.

While my knowledge would help me in Europe / Northen hemisphere, I have no real knowledge that can be applied on a Pacific island for example.

Unless you know where the water comes from, and you are in a rocky area, you should boil or filtrate the water first. In most cases, it will be safe to drink anyway with the only risk being diarrhea, but depending on the season, the amount of small game, (and so on), there can be parasites in the water that can be deadly for you if left untreated. The risk of this depends on the location, but even in Norway we have at least 100 or so cases a year from this due to people drinking water (or melted snow) in nature without boiling/filtrating it first, and need to get treated at the hospital.