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    Putzfrau Alaitoc Craftworld

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    Problem is Guard just don't have the bodies. Want the bodies for board control.
     
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    Lizerd Biel-Tan Craftworld

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    Maybe a skink screen could be used to help block stuff? They can also be used in the way @LizardWizard suggested in his list in conjunction with Ripperdactyls while skinks grab stuff
     
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    LizardWizard Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    Only issue is that Blood Letters and Blood Thirsters of Incinerate Rage will destroy Eternal Guard. There are also a few other armies that really dish out mortal wounds a well. I think Shadowstrike with Eternal Starhost is one of the better ways to run the battallion because the Rippers can kill a MaxSU of Bloodletters or what ever else posses the the greatest threat to their castle.
     
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    Emanu Saim-Hann Craftworld

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    Hi guys, one question, i have created a list with both slann starmaster and Kroak, i thought that if i wouldnt cast spells with both i could have collected celestial points but he said that only the general collects celestial points. Is that correct?
     
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    Erta Wanderer Ulthwé Craftworld

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    yup slann and kroak can still work but only one of them can be your summon engine
     
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    A_Reptile_Dysfunction Saim-Hann Craftworld

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    If you fancy it @Killer Angel has recently posted Battle Report featuring a list using both Slaan and Kroak. Not sure how to link to it however.
     
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    Killer Angel Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    here it is.

    Actually, I'm pondering about a list that doesn't rely on summoning. That could be the next BatRep.
     
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    Emanu Saim-Hann Craftworld

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    Ok thanks for the tip!
     
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    LizardWizard Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    Triple Carno and a Dread Saurian:

    Allegiance: Seraphon
    -Mortal Realm: Ulgu

    Leaders:
    Slann Starmaster
    (260)
    - General
    - Trait: Great Rememberer
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    Skink Starpriest (80)
    - Spell: Celestial Apotheosis
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)
    - Artefact: Doppelganger Cloak
    Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (240)
    - Artefact: Miasmatic Blade
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
    - War Spear
    - Artefact: Sword of Judgement

    Battleline:
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances
    5 x Saurus Knights (80)
    - Lances

    Behemoths:
    Dread Saurian
    (420)

    Battalions:
    Fangs of Sotek
    (70)
    Firelance Starhost (150)

    Endless Spells / Terrain:
    Balewind Vortex
    (40)

    Total: 1980 / 2000
    Extra Command Points: 2
    Allies: 0 / 400
    Wounds: 93

    Sadly the most I could fit is 3. If you really want to run 4 Carnos then drop the battalions and run skinks. I think DT is one of the better delivery systems for the Dread Saurian. Cogs would also be ideal. I am not sure if the Serpents Staff out weighs cogs, but you could also drop the Skink Starpriest to add in cogs.
     
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    FYI if you LoSaT on the BwV it is dispelled. As that counts as the spell leaving the table.
     
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    Killer Angel Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    The designer's commentary for skaven says otherwise.
     
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    Canas Saim-Hann Craftworld

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    Didn't they specificly F.A.Q. that you could do this with the balewindvortex for us as well at some point?
     
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    LizardWizard Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    The BWV isn't leaving the table from a rules perspective. The rules say the BWV counts as part of the model. Thus it travels with the model. This is explicitly stated in the sources @Killer Angel mentioned above.
     
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    No, but it could go to the main RB or MS FAQ at some point, as they did with bloodletters keyword in Khorne battletome.
     
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    @LizardWizard sorry if this is hijacking your thread a bit, but can you try and write an experimental list or two for the new seraphon battletome @Erta Wanderer and I have been working on?
     
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    LizardWizard Ctho Craftworld Staff Member

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    Sure thing, that sounds fun. Do you want me to just post the theoretical lists in the your two's battletome thread when they are done?

    Would it be possible to get a condensed version of the battletome and matched play points that is more consumable? For alas I am lazy and hate jumping between pages :D
     
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    its all currently on page 14 at least until the google doc is done
     
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    if you notes anything that needs changing let me know
     
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