Fellow Seraphon commanders, I've stumbled upon an amazing new(ish) tool to utilize. Brought to us by NoMaDhOoK on TGA, here is AOS Statshammer. Here's an example of a unit of Rippers with Swooping Dive, Strike from the Skies, Blot Toad all in play.
Thanks for the post. My experience in games reflects this pretty closely. I almost always force about 48-52 saves to be made.
nice i use druchii.net for my mathhammer. i don'y know how you got that much damage thou its like twice what 3 of them should be doing. they can't even do 50 damage their max is 40