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AoS NEW *rumor*

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Logan8054, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    yeah this hurts quite a lot
     
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  2. Dreamkeeper
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    where did u get that?
     
  3. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    I'm not able to find it.
    Where it is listed?
     
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  4. xoid
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    Messed up my quoting, ignore please.
     
  5. xoid
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    The new FAQ says that ward saves, which happen before you allocate wounds, stack with anything that occurs as you apply wounds, which is when the Astrolith Bearer's ability happens.
     
  6. ChapterAquila92
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    Monstrous Arcanum, page 5.
     
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  7. Killer Angel
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    I think this needs a clarification.
    In the FAQ for the core rules, there are 2 new (magenta) different Q&A:


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    the second one is what @Just A Skink quoted

    however, you must read carefully the text of the abilities:
    for the Astrolith bearer "Revivifying Energies", the text says "Roll a dice each time you allocate a wound or mortal wound to a friendly Seraphon unit wholly within 12" of any models with this ability. On a 6, that wound or mortal wound is negated". (emphasis mine).
    This falls into the first Q&A: being an ability that triggers after the allocation of the wound, you get the (possible) ward save AND the 6+ negate.
     
  8. Killer Angel
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    Ah!
    it isn't yet published in the italian version of the FAQ.
     
  9. Just A Skink
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    Thank you @Killer Angel! I misunderstood that when I was reading those questions & answers.
     
  10. Just A Skink
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    That's a bummer. I guess it's still usable in fun matches, at least.
     
  11. Kilvakar
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    Yeah, basically any save-after-save that isn't specifically labeled a "ward save" stacks with ward saves. Which probably means unkillable Verminlord Warpseers could come back? Not sure if any of their multiple saves got officially named Ward Saves.

    But yeah, Dread Saurian got hit hard. Points increase and warscroll nerfs at the same time! I guess it wasn't "fair" for another faction to have a monster that was close to a Gargant in wound count that could also buff itself :p
     
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  12. cyberhawk94
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    Litterally was going to a tournament in October and bringing the Dread for the fun of it/it was actually decent. Without Roar of Ruin or the ability to buff itself Im not sure I can justify it even just for fun, especially since its most fun ability got removed.
     
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  13. Dread Saurian
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    I'm so incredibly bitter about these unreasonable nerfs. sure you can take away my Totem shit whatever. But why kick me while I'm down with the removal of roar of ruin? I wasn't overpowered in the slightest in this edition. I sure as fuck wasn't efficient last edition
     
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  14. Kilvakar
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  15. Killer Angel
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    I don't know about the rest, but it almost seems GW doesn't like too much FW models... the mourngul went from 270 (which was already overpriced for what it actually does) to 300 pts.
     
  16. Kilvakar
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    I definitely think that has something to do with it. Even though they are owned by the same company, GW definitely seems to want to discourage people from using forgeworld models competitively. Which I don't really understand, given the fact that forgeworld models are so expensive.
     
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  17. S1lverScorpion
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    I'm honestly considering running my Dread as Bundo Whalebiter in friendly games now. Will have to think of some creative way of representing the ranged attack he has though
     
  18. Lizerd
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    we have any word on the draconith warscrolls, and i suppose the larger sce battletome? havent seen anything on it for quite a while now
     
  19. Togetic
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    It was delayed from coming out in august to sometime in September, so it’ll be a couple weeks yet
     
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  20. Cristhian MLR
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    I really liked the idea to deploy two EotGs for Thunder Lizard lists already. Not sure if this will make fielding at least one on any other kind of list will be mandatory, but I am glad to see more incentives to have steggies stomping the battlefield! Now the question is if it would be worth it to start bringing even three...

    Dreaded dread, but having one is already a luxury for our hobby, and running three, and GW for some weird reason don't seem to like FW models to coexist with Citadel, unless they are fancy kits for 40K or Blood Bowl.
     

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