1. This is just a notice to inform you that we will move the forum to a new server sometime during the next few weeks. The actual process should not last more than a few hours; during this process, we will disable replying and creating new posts. As soon as we know the date for the transfer, we will update with more information.
    Dismiss Notice

Contest January-February 2023 Short Story Contest Tie Breaker (closed March 11th)

Discussion in 'Fluff and Stories' started by Scalenex, Mar 1, 2023.

?

Which Semi-Finalist Story do you like best.

Poll closed Mar 11, 2023.
  1. Story One: "The Dinosaur"

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Story Two: "A Day to Be Grateful"

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. Scalenex
    Slann

    Scalenex Keeper of the Indexes Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,859
    Likes Received:
    19,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We had a tie in the most recent Short Story Contest. So I'm a setting up a ten day tie-breaker period. Just in case someone finds this post without finding the original contest post, here it is. I'm still posting the official winner's announcement and author IDs there.

    I like both semi-finalist pieces and am going to re-read both carefully before making a decision.

    You can vote however you want but if you are going to say "I voted for X, not Y," please keep your stated reasoning based on literary merit rather than relatively arbitrary things.

    Please do not comment on the running vote tally until at least five days have passed.

    Please do not reveal author identities until the semi-finals are complete, even if you wrote one of the pieces that is not a semi-finalist.

    The Dinosaur


    The Knight Errant Roland was eager to prove himself, but he was aware of the danger.

    He had already found the corpses of two other knights… better equipped than himself and more experienced, judging from their insignia, but even their ability had proved to be no match for a horde of ghouls in Mousillon (the former) and the arrows of wood elves near Artois (the latter).

    Unsurprisingly, large numbers of the knights of Aquitaine were heading East… someone had kidnapped (through the use of dark magic) the beautiful Lady Charlotte, Duke Armand’s daughter. The Lady’s Prophetesses, led by their holy power, had been able to point the research toward a specific place: Uzkulak, in the Dark Lands.

    Many knights had chosen the most direct route, heading toward the land of the Chaos Dwarfs by passing through the friendly realms of the Empire and Kislev… but not Roland. He was convinced that it would have been more worthy to take a riskier route, through the Sea of Chaos and the River Ruin. Legends are forged by courage.

    So he sailed with a ship from l’Anguille, braving the dangerous, northern sea.

    And dangerous it was, indeed: twice the ship was attacked… firstly by a Chimera, that tore many sailors before Roland was able to take it down, then some Norscan pirates, that fled when the knight beheaded their champion.

    Roland was saluted as a hero by the crew, but all these extraordinary feats were not completely satisfying, as there was something indefinite that was worrying him… surely the fact that Lady Charlotte was still in danger.

    When the ship docked in Erengrad, Roland followed a land route alongside the River Ruin, facing once again many threats… a feral great bear in the frozen plains of Kislev, then (more to the south) a black ork riding an armored war boar.

    With each step Roland’s strength was growing… and so his discomfort, always with the feeling that something was out of place.

    Finally, when the northern cold was only a distant memory, Roland’s goal was there: the tower of the Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer, where Lady Charlotte was kept captive.

    Roland shook off his anxiety and went for the tower: many hobgoblins were slew that day, and finally he bravely faced the horrors of the tower: a bull centaur fell by his sword and lastly even the Dark Sorcerer was killed, despite his foul magic.

    The day was Roland’s… and yet, while he was setting free Lady Charlotte, there was still something that he wasn’t able to explain to himself.

    Then, the road to home: Kislev, the Empire… it was a long journey, during which Roland was still forced to fight a chaos giant. Inevitably, Lady Charlotte fell in love with this brave, gallant knight, and Roland loved her too, but he wasn’t happy, not completely.

    When they returned to the Capital, escorted by a group of Grail Knights, all the kingdom of Aquitaine celebrated them, and the Duke, who knew how to recognize valor, granted Roland the title of Paladin and (reading his daughter's heart) also granted the knight to marry Charlotte.

    That day would be long sung by the bards, with bretonnian and elven guests on their magnificent griffins and dragons, and flocks of pegasi flying over the city… the ceremony was stupendous, but all the while, even on what should have been his finest day, Roland was not left with the feeling that something was wrong.

    After the wedding dinner, the knight and the princess left the city gates and strolled near the wood of lovers. The knight embraced his beautiful bride and suddenly managed to understand what had been tormenting him for all these months: "But shouldn't there also be a dinosaur in this story?".

    Indeed, sorry for being late, here I am!”, said the Carnosaur, coming out from the wood.

    And ate them.

    A day to be grateful


    Jungle surrounding Tlaxtlan, Lustria
    8th of Jahrdrung, 1549 IC/1.17.10.5.15.18. 11 Etz’nab’ 1 Xul


    On the east side of the vast and dense jungle, just before the spectral blue that is the great ocean, laid a glistering coast with little to none high vegetation. From the point where the waves crush upon the coastline to the jungle’s edge, roughly three miles land inwards, stretched a sandy plain, now resting in the morning sunlight.

    A couple of miles beyond the jungle’s edge, two skinks walked slowly between the trees dragging a large bag mad out of palm leaves behind them. “How much further do you think we need to go, Tak’ek Muntoc?”
    “The priest said to drop it off at the beginning of the sand plains, so it will be at least two more miles.”
    “I sure hope it will be possible for us to move back in time.” Said Qu’ Tuazl nervously.
    Tak’ek Muntoc looked at him and nodded: “The more reason to pull a bit harder.”
    They dragged the bag for a mile more in silence, purely focusing on the task at hand. It was Qu’ Tuazl again that broke the silence: “I still don’t completely understand why we are doing this.”
    “What is there to understand? This is a tradition that we practice year in year out.”
    “I know that much, but are we doing this just because it is a tradition? What is the reason this is a tradition? I mean, not that I am ungrateful for being one of the chosen for this year’s tribute duty, but why are we doing this exactly?”
    Tak’ek Muntoc stopped and let go of the bag. “Well okay, sit down and listen!” he replied agitated. After taking a couple of deep and calming breaths he continued: “You are familiar with the history of the arrival of the warmbloods at our doorstep, I presume?” He looked over to his spawning brother and continued without expecting an answer to his rhetorical question. “It all started fifty-seven years ago in this very region. Not long after the warmbloods had set foot on, what they now refer to as, Colombo’s Island. The settlement of Santa Magritta was just formed and consisted only of one dock and three houses.
    Although small in numbers, the warmbloods did not keep to the island alone. Soon they travelled along the Scorpion’s Coast to discover new places and resources.

    So it came to be that on the sandy plain beside the jungle the activities and voices of the warmbloods filled the air. Houses were built and soil was prepared to start farmlands.

    Skink patrols set out more frequently to keep a close eye on the situation and reported back to Tlaxtlan.

    The warmbloods, that settled, spawned warmbloods that were adventurous. The later were more curious in nature than the first and even made trips into the jungle.
    The observing patrols were pulled further back to avoid confrontation. The Slann did not find the warmbloods worthy of interaction in any way, shape or form.

    Loud noises of the breaking of wood and disrupting of earth however alerted them that something was going wrong. The patrols of skinks rushed forward inspect and stand at the ready to protect the jungle from destruction. When they arrived at the jungle’s edge they noticed that the jungle didn’t need protection, but that the jungle provided protection itself. A pair of Therizinosaurs had emerged from their safe cover of vegetation and roamed freely in the village, breaking down houses and killing warmbloods that did not manage to get away in time. Those that did, gathered at the coastline and franticly reached for the boats. They rowed back to Santa Magritta.
    In the aftermath of the rampage the Therizinosaurs kept walking around the once village and did not move back to the jungle. The skink patrols now moving in inspected the ruins and found, in what had been the village’s storage, a big crate lined with straw and packed with five Therizinosaur eggs. To restore the order and make the Therizinosaurs feel at ease again the Skinks transported the eggs back to their nests just beyond the treeline. And to this day no more warmbloods come to this side of the jungle.”

    Tak’ek Muntoc stopped to notice the bland face of Qu’ Tuazl.
    “So that is why we are grateful towards the Therizinosaurs on this day!” he over emphasized with his hands. The blandness of Qu’ Tuazl’s face faded. “We better bring them this year’s tribute then.”

    After a last mile they dropped the bag at the jungle’s edge. Unfolding the leaves and revealing the tribute, consisting of a variety of fruits, plants and flowers. Both of the skinks stepped back about twenty feet and waited quietly. They didn’t have to wait long before a pair of Therizinosaurs was attracted by the tribute and started eating. As Qu’ Tuazl and Takék Muntoc turned around to go home a few younger Therizinosaurs joined.
     
    Noxolotl, Imrahil and Killer Angel like this.
  2. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful:

    :joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful::joyful:


    Hahaha... I've waited so long to use that one! I could have used a meme version of it (as it would be more on brand), but only a video does the smug-faced Brie justice! (for the record, I don't actually view it as a personal attack)


    Anyways, back on topic....


     
    Noxolotl, Imrahil and Scalenex like this.
  3. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    34,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lately it's not that uncommon to have tie-breaks... evidence that the quality of the writing is overall good.

    I'm happy with the results so far, given that i gave my vote to one of these 2 stories

    Cattura.JPG

    but that said, @Scalenex' advice is good: i'm going to reread carefully both the pieces
     
    Noxolotl and Imrahil like this.
  4. Scalenex
    Slann

    Scalenex Keeper of the Indexes Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,859
    Likes Received:
    19,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Directed at Nightbringer personally? Yes.

    Intended as an attack? No. Intended as a request.
     
  5. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    34,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, at least this round, with two stories involving CD, he was forced to a sort of effective choice.
    So that counts, i think? :p
     
    Imrahil likes this.
  6. Scolenex
    Ripperdactil

    Scolenex Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    1,423
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Drop the taco you two!
     
  7. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Okay... literary merit. Let's go!

    I voted for The Dinosaur because:
    • great villain - I've always been partial to great villains and I'm of the mindset that a hero's quality can never exceed the worth of the villain that he is able to overcome. The story did an excellent job in creating an adversary (both through a big bad and his lesser minions) that were truly daunting for the hero to defeat. What makes the story impressive was the author's ability to accomplish this task with minimal wordage. Simply an effective use of space to achieve the desired outcome. The payoff of having a great villain is doubly valid in this case because it also feeds into the perplexing nature of the hero feeling that something is out of place. Saving the girl from such a truly dangerous and diabolical foe, should leave our hero feeling elated. All this leads into the reader's eventual payoff with the twist ending.
    • great setting - essentially for the same reasons as above. Stories are best when they create situations that are hard on the protagonist... and the great setting of this short story undoubtedly fits the bill. I can't quite put my finger on the precise characteristics that lead to the compelling setting (especially around the mid-phase of the story), however, I do feel that the results speak for themselves. As the Joker once said: "I don't know if its art, but I like it."
    • solid lore knowledge and tie in with the Warhammer story world - another aspect I like is that the story demonstrates the author's deep knowledge of the official lore. I think the author really does justice to the source material through a deeper reference of the more nuanced parts of the original IP. The author unequivocally demonstrates a high degree of source material knowledge and thereby completely avoids the pitfalls that often plague fan fictions that are built upon a more cursory in-universe framework.



    I'd like to see anyone argue that villain construction, story world development and source material knowledge/integration don't fit the definition of "literary merit".


    dffdsfdsaf.jpg
     
  8. Imrahil
    Slann

    Imrahil Thirtheenth Spawning

    Messages:
    12,211
    Likes Received:
    25,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are still missing 3 votes compared to the original voting thread. Any last minute voters?

    Grrr, !mrahil
     
  9. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
  10. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [​IMG]
     
    Imrahil likes this.
  11. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    34,898
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I did my part, and i gave my vote to my brave opponent. i don't know about the missing ones...


    Cattura.JPG
     
    Imrahil likes this.
  12. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    34,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks! even if it was a funny answer to @Scalenex, it's nonetheless a compliment when @NIGHTBRINGER feels your work is a solid reference to the WHFB lore.

    TBH, i had a lot of fun in writing Roland's journey, which could be easily tracked through a map of the Old World. So many memories...
     
    NIGHTBRINGER and Imrahil like this.
  13. Imrahil
    Slann

    Imrahil Thirtheenth Spawning

    Messages:
    12,211
    Likes Received:
    25,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Congratulations @Killer Angel. Of course I did the same and gave you my vote as well.

    Well deserved win.

    Grrr, !mrahil
     
    Killer Angel likes this.
  14. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was wondering what the two finalists would do. It must be tough to vote against your piece in a direct 1 v 1 matchup... especially if it purely as a result of adhering to protocol.
     
    Killer Angel and Imrahil like this.
  15. Killer Angel
    Slann

    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    34,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I will do what must be done, suffering in silence. :p
     
    Imrahil and NIGHTBRINGER like this.
  16. Scalenex
    Slann

    Scalenex Keeper of the Indexes Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,859
    Likes Received:
    19,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think it's just adhering to protocol. I still think most of skilled authors dislike their own work.

    Of course, it is more satisfying to barely beat a worthy opponent than to steam roll an inferior opponent so that could incentivize people in voting for the opposition.
     
    Imrahil likes this.
  17. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But since they are not allowed to vote for their own, they have only two options, vote for the opponent or abstain from voting. Even if it is true that they usually dislike their own work, there must be times, albeit rarely, when they legitimately feel that theirs might be better. It's a tough position in my opinion.

    Imagine the scenario where someone loses by 1 and they voted for the opponent!

    I suppose it is all for fun anyways.
     
  18. Scalenex
    Slann

    Scalenex Keeper of the Indexes Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,859
    Likes Received:
    19,340
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We ask that people do not vote for themselves. We do not have the ability to make people not vote for themselves given the limitations of the software used.

    It's not like we had a cash prize or anything. Nor are we super competitive. Though I do miss my frenemy @spawning of Bob. In a lot of cases it didn't matter if someone else won, we just wanted to beat the other guy.
     
    Imrahil likes this.
  19. Y'ttar Scaletail
    Troglodon

    Y'ttar Scaletail Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    642
    Likes Received:
    2,049
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Though many of those would disagree on the 'skilled' part. :p

    I'm also pretty sure i've knocked myself off of podium more than once. XD
     
    Imrahil and Killer Angel like this.
  20. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

    Messages:
    85,000
    Likes Received:
    268,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That actually makes it worse in a way. :p

    I get that. That's why I wrote: "I suppose it is all for fun anyways".

    I think the rule begins to falter when it comes down to 1 on 1. It's one thing to vote for your favourite story from a pool of stories (since you're still making a decision), but when it becomes one-on-one, the rule essentially becomes... vote for the other guy.

    That said, under normal conditions (not one versus one), I understand the purpose of the rule. The vote count for these competitions is extremely low, usually just barely above the votes cast by the authors themselves. If the authors could vote for themselves, you would be essentially discounting the majority of your voting pool. If on the other hand, the contest consistently garnered a couple of hundred voters, it would make more sense to allow people to vote for themselves and rely on the large external block of votes to settle the score.

    Just saying... voting for yourself when you're not allowed to would be the most Skaven thing to do! Yes-yes... I'm the best! :D:D:D:D:D
     

Share This Page