8th Ed. Ward Saves...

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  1. Professor_Skink
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    Professor_Skink New Member

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    So I was playing Skaven and my opponent had a plague priest on a furnace with the talisman of preservation. I know I can shoot directly at the furnace with shooting, but he said that the furnace gets the 4+ ward as well. So my questions:

    Do heroes transfer their ward saves from items to their mounts? For example would plague priests give their furnace the talisman ward? ( that would mean carnosaurs can get 4+ ward which doesn't seem right...)

    Also, how does randomizing work with the screaming bell? Would a fiery convocation attack hit the bell and the grey seer or just the bell?

    Thanks for the help
     
  2. n810
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    Not sure... It might be a case by case basis depending on the wording of the ward save item.
     
  3. hdctambien
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    hdctambien Active Member

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    The wording of that talisman is:

    "The Talisman of Preservation grants the bearer a 4+ ward save"

    Normally, that save will not transfer to a mount (sorry, Carnosaur). However, Skaven play pretty fast and loose with the rules, so I can't say for sure if there is any special/strange wording in the Skaven book that changes that rule.
     
  4. Stonecutter
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    I think the player was confusing the plague furnace with the screaming bell. The SB does grant a 4+ WS to both itself and its rider. However, this does not apply to the PF. A lot of the confusion lies in the rules for the PF which constantly reference the SB in terms of placement and movement. Also, the general FAQ provides the following guidance:

    Q: Does a ridden monster benefit from any ward save that its
    rider possesses or vice versa? (p105)
    A: No.


    The exception, of course, is the SB since it specifically states that it grants a 4+ WS to itself and the rider but as the PF doesn't have this wording, it doesn't apply.
     
  5. Professor_Skink
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    Thanks for the rules help, thought it was a buggy thing but needed clarification
     

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