Stringy plastic glue and a question about green stuff

Discussion in 'Painting and Converting' started by Caprasauridae, Aug 17, 2014.

  1. Caprasauridae
    Stegadon

    Caprasauridae Well-Known Member

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    Hello, Lustrianists!

    I'm finishing up my Stegadon and got this basing idea, which would show the Stegs mass. I would like to make the Steg to sink into the base just a bit, and also make an imprint of it's foot behind the creature. I was planning to achieve this by making a big flat sheet of green stuff, placing it on top of the base and then making the imprints with the Steg itself. However, I have never done anything like this before. Any suggestions on how to handle the green stuff? I understood from Rikards blogs that it is good to wet your hands before handling it, so that it doesn't stick. Could I make the sheet in the same way as in baking, i.e. use something as a rolling bin?

    As a separate matter, any ideas on how to prevent plastic glue from forming strings so easily? It drives me crazy, I try to dab a little drop into the surface I am planning to attach, and as I withdraw the glue stick, a long string is formed. Then it tangles around and attached itself to the model, preferably on an already painted area... Grr. I use Army Painter Plastic Glue and have no other qualms with it.

    Any help is sincerely appreciated!
     
  2. Crillaz
    Cold One

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    I can't help you with the green stuff since I have no experience working with it.

    About the glue, I use a poly glue that is very watery. On the skrew-cap there is a brush with which you apply the glue.

    Works fine for me. Look for it in toy or hobby shops.

    Good luck with the green stuff. :)
     
  3. NexS1
    Carnasaur

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    I would suggest the following for the green stuff-
    Seeing that the jungle floor is rarely even,, I would create small hills and lumps with the green stuff. I'm not sure how you could make the sinking steg look realistic (because, obviously, tish donosais still exist lol) but I figure that it wouldn't be sinking into the ground, moreso crushing the soft topsoil and underbrush. In this case whatni would do is use the greenstuff to make the ground risen (like earlier) and press the model down into to create the footprint. Then press the model down onto the rest of the base, where he will be permanently, and use a tool to smoothen out the green stuff. Jungle undergrowth is not snow, so you don't want it to look like it. However, the footprint may need to remain snow-like to exaggerate the footprint.

    I hope I've helped. Good luck!
     
  4. Caprasauridae
    Stegadon

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    Thanks for the input so far.

    Crillaz, is poly-glue some sort of plastic glue? As I do have super glue, but I like using plastic glue because it works so fast and, if the area of effect is big enough, is stronger than super glue.

    NexS1, great advice! First I thought to make the Steg walking on a muddy ground, but then it would be quite different from my other Lizardmen models. To even out the imprint is a really good idea! And yeah, I would like to make an exaggerated imprint to make it really stand out.
     
  5. n810
    Slann

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    Rubber cement is the only glue I can think of that gets stringy,
    ok possibly some of the plastic solvents, but usualy only if you
    go crazy and use a lot of it at once and bump the nozel against the model.
     
  6. Crillaz
    Cold One

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    Yes its a plastic glue. All glues named something ¨poly¨ are for plastics. I can check brand later today and post it. But you should be able to find that kind of glue practically everywhere.

    I don't like to use glue on tube. There is always the risk of it pouring out from the tube.
     
  7. Caprasauridae
    Stegadon

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    I'm using plastic glue from Army Painter. Maybe the glue is getting old, I don't remember it being this bad when it was new. I could try buying some non-war game brand from hardware store, maybe those are less stringy.
     
  8. n810
    Slann

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    I recomend Testors model master plastic glue.
    (the odd looking square bottle with a spout on one corner)
     
  9. Silverblight
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    Also in regards to wetting hands/tools when using green stuff; the best thing I've found to keep it from sticking is, don't laugh, personal lubricant. It sounds silly but think about it. Just pick up a tube or use some stuff that you have, a water based lubricant, and go to town. Add a bit of water whenever it starts to dry out. Works like a charm and is easy to clean up after the fact too.
     
  10. Arli
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    I second N810's remark. I use the testors model master glue that has a metal applicator. I love the stuff. One bottle has lasted me almost 2 years (I need to get a new bottle in the next few weeks).
     
  11. Dyvim Tvar
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    When glueing plastic, I usually do it in two steps. First, I use super glue since it joins instantly. Plastic glue takes forever to set. Then I use a brush-on polystyrene cement called Weldene. It is VERY thin, and it runs into the cracks and crevices of the join and melts the plastic together.
     
  12. Caprasauridae
    Stegadon

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    That is certainly interesting idea, Silverblight. Do you know if the flavour matters? Is banana better than strawberry? Just teasing you. It certainly sounds better suited for the job than some other lubricants. Do you then wash the stuff off afterwards? Or wipe it clean before the green stuff has time to completely solidify?

    Oh, and n810 and Arli, I don't know if they sell Testor here in Finland, and with the current postage costs it can get pretty expensive to order it from somewhere else. However, I'll check the hardware store for some other brands and give them a go.
     
  13. Silverblight
    Skink

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    Just wash it off after the green stuff dries, as I've no idea if it will interfere with priming. The worst it could do is stain the plastic. Not a big deal.
     

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