the people who i play the most have armys of VC and HE and ive got a WoC and i was killed so quickly from the slow moving ... so im making a LM army in hope their speed could defeat them.
could someone please give me a good starting off list which i could build from that could beat those armies
EotG has served well for both. I've seen the bubble beat up the HE shooting. Against VC the Radius damage has seriously pwned four or five units of undead turn after turn when I can get it in the middle of the battle line, not to mention impact hits and CR, since they can't reliably get through the howdah save to the skinks.
Magic defence is probably a big thing as well, especially against VC, are you wanting to include anything in particular in the list? Or even have a prefered playing style? If you give us a bit more info on your preferences we may be able to help more Also, are you after a list to just be competitive or are you looking at moving into the dark-side of the cheese and taking a list purely to decimate your opponents?
i take always a slann against VC, most times with lore of metal, to get rid of the undead cavallery, since LM have no canons or other useful long range weapons. combining the slann with a feather cloaked skink priest for even greater range of fire might serve well.
I'm confused, you're asking someone to put together a list that is capable of defeating opponents X, Y and Z? The opposing armies you mention can be played very differently depending on the troops that they field and the opponetns play style. It's almost impossible to set up a list with the facts that you've given, on top of the fact that if all the facts were available it would take a considerable amount of time. It would be easier for us to comment and make suggestions on a list that you've posted taking into consideration the fact that you know your opponents. If you do this you'll get a much more targetted response from the LO community and it will make it easier for us over all to comment on the specific list. You could also take a look at the many threads already posted in this forum that deal specifically with the opponents you're talking about. Forgive my ignorance if I am wrong, but this thread sounds like you're asking the community to give you a list to play that can win against your opponents. Ultimately, there is no cold hard answer to your question and I doubt that anyone is willing to spend the time to put together a list that is tailored to suit your specific situation. There are just too many unkown variables.
EotG lvl 2 EotG lvl 2 EotG lvl 2 EotG lvl 2 10 skinks 10 skinks 10 skinks 10 skinks 4 terradons 4 terradons 2000 points, job done Edit: just one more thing, rofl rofl barotok
Or... you could ask Dumbledore's LM List Construction services who have so graciously provided an excellent list in the above post! I don't know how he does it!