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Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Seraphage, Jun 26, 2017.

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  1. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Aginor, Aug 22, 2017
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  2. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    Straight out confirm it, no. The way I have interpreted the commentators last night the rerolls and skink spells are different traits. The truth will set us free on saturday!
     
    Kadanga, Aug 22, 2017
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  3. Xlanax_lot
    Troglodon

    Xlanax_lot Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys one quick question when you have a battalion that includes other battalions how does that work ?

    Do you get to artifacts and do you get the benefits from both battalions or do you only get one artifact and a benefit for the larger battalion?
     
    Xlanax_lot, Aug 22, 2017
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  4. Drofnum
    Cold One

    Drofnum Well-Known Member

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    You get all benefits and artifacts for the main battalion and the sub battalion.
     
    Drofnum, Aug 22, 2017
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  5. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    That's the reason (or at least one reason) why they became so expensive. Some armies, like Bonesplitterz or Sylvaneth had very cheap bataillons and basically got items and less drops for free, which tipped balance in their favour very much. For them it was easy to play with three or even four artefacts and drop their whole army at once.

    I am glad that's not so cheap anymore. Taking a Bataillon, two, or even none, is a decision now. Risk vs. Reward.
    I like it.
     
    Aginor, Aug 23, 2017
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  6. Drofnum
    Cold One

    Drofnum Well-Known Member

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    Thinking of some ways to run a Bloodclaw.

    Slann - General - 260
    Old blood on Carno - 280
    Scar vet on Carno - 240
    Scar vet on cold one - 100
    Sunblood - 120
    10 x Knights - 200
    40 x warriors - 360
    10 x warriors - 100
    Bloodclaw starhost - 200
    3 x Salamanders - 120

    Pile all the buffs on the knights and teleport them and probably the Scar vet on carno or cold one where they can get a charge on some vulnerable units. Big block of warriors to take objectives with the other 10 to hold something less vulnerable/protect the Slann. Old one gets to just go hunting and the sunblood can hang with the big block of warriors. Salamanders for some ranged support and mortal wounds.

    Could also swap out 20 warriors and the Salamanders for a Basti not sure which I would prefer there honestly, I do love my laser lizard.
     
    Drofnum, Aug 23, 2017
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  7. LordRibbit
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    LordRibbit, Aug 23, 2017
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  8. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    Well.. there we have it!

    Edit: Happy to see I got a perfect score on traits!
     
    Kadanga, Aug 23, 2017
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  9. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Looks good! Though I don't understand the Dracothion's tail. does it mean we can summon units for free? Or we can summon units from our Starhosts?
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 23, 2017
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  10. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    We can summon units from the starhost, for free. But only one of each unit per turn. This one is soooooo with the lore, I love it. But if you loose your slann turn 1, well, though pickles.
     
    Kadanga, Aug 23, 2017
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  11. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    So wait, say I deploy with a Firelance with 3 units of Knights. Does it mean that once each turn I can summon another unit of Saurus knights for free?!

    So each turn, one free unit of Saurus knights?!
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 23, 2017
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  12. LordRibbit
    Temple Guard

    LordRibbit Well-Known Member

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    It's one drop, stick the slann on a balewind vortex and summon/teleport most of your army 9 inches away from your opponents deploment zone!
     
    LordRibbit, Aug 23, 2017
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  13. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Ah, so no free summoning then for more units right?

    Bummer, Oh well. Do you guys think this will have good uses?
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 23, 2017
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  14. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    You can summon the units that you have in your list already for free, nothing outside of it.
     
    Kadanga, Aug 23, 2017
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    Skink

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    It sounds like it still requires the summoning reserve pool. you have a firelance + slann with the option of other battalions. My question is whether we take no extra battalions whether we still have the option to summon units outside of firelance, or , for example, if I wanted to summon guards, would I need to include an eternal starhost? I like that we have a fairly convenient one drop battalion though.
     
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  16. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    It includes the battallions and any other seraphon unit. As long as you have them in your list before the game, you can summon them in for free. Anything not on the list, will require casting and reinforcement points.
     
    Kadanga, Aug 23, 2017
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  17. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    So how would that work? I would have to put some units in reserve outside of the board, and I can summon them in? But I believe you have to start with 3 battleline units in your army right?
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 23, 2017
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  18. Drofnum
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    Fangs of Sotek doesnt seem that great honestly. Dracothians tail on the other hand looks amazing.
     
    Drofnum, Aug 23, 2017
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  19. Kadanga
    Saurus

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    Yes. But the battlelines dont have to be fielded right away.
    Here's an example:

    Dracothions Tail 60
    Slann 260
    20 Saurus Warriors 200

    Shadowstrike 170
    10 Skinks 60
    10 Skinks 60
    6 Rippers 280
    Starpriest 80

    Firelance Starhost 110
    Scar vet on Carno 240
    Saurus Knights 100
    Saurus Knights 100
    Saurus Knights 100

    That is 1820 points (the new points).

    In my deployment I must field the slann, because he's doing the summoning. That's the only mandatory part.

    For example:
    I choose to deploy the slann and the entire shadowstrike starhost. Leaving the firelance and the Warriors in the cosmos.
    In my first hero phase I can summon the following for free (free is relative since they are already paid for):
    1x Scar vet on Carno
    5x Saurus Knights
    20x Saurus Warriors

    In the second one I can summon:
    5x Saurus Knights for free

    And in the third one:
    5x Saurus Knights for free

    On top of all this I have 180pt in reinforcement, these points I can use for standard summoning in any of my hero phases, as in I can choose whatever I want as long as I can pay for it and I succeed the casting roll.

    I hope that clears things up!
     
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    Kadanga, Aug 23, 2017
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  20. tom ndege
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    tom ndege Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone else see the typo? They wrote Slaan Starmaster instead of Slann Starmaster several times....
    And about the important things:
    Does dracothion's tail allow you to summon more than the point limit? Like expanding your army to 2500 points in a 2000 points game? Guess not! But it allows you to somehow out maneuver your oponeopponent by summoning units for free(meaning no spells wasted) ... did I get that right?
     
    tom ndege, Aug 23, 2017
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