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AoS General's Handbook finally announced !!

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by Seraphage, Jun 26, 2017.

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  1. Tozon
    Saurus

    Tozon Active Member

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    I do not even know what all that would do but looks good!!!
     
    Tozon, Aug 25, 2017
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  2. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    +1 on charge
    +1 on save
    Jaws attack on a wound roll of six does double damage (which means 2D6 damage!) EDIT: Or in short: "NOM"!
    Everyone has -1 to hit when attacking the Dread Saurian
    Re-roll charge and save
    increase or decrease one dice roll per phase on that unit

    I think this is quite near the maximum of buffs you could put on a Dread Saurian when playing pure Seraphon.
     
    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  3. Drofnum
    Cold One

    Drofnum Well-Known Member

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    Dont forget the old blood on Carno command ability. +2 attacks on those jaws.
     
    Drofnum, Aug 25, 2017
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  4. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    That only works on heros with the Saurus keyword, so not on the Dread Saurian.
     
    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  5. Xlanax_lot
    Troglodon

    Xlanax_lot Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what is going to happen with compendium units and war scroll battalions from the beginning?

    Skink chiefs, tehenhauin, etc...
     
    Xlanax_lot, Aug 25, 2017
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  6. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    They just released the PDF for them along the FAQs!
    Dread Saurian 380
    Skink Chief stays Edit DAMMIT! Lost Seraphon keyword. Also no Command ability anymore so useless now. :(. Damn you GW!
    Tehenauin renamed
    Oxyotl renamed
    Jungle Swarms renamed and cheaper but don't get the Seraphon keyword :(

    Dammit so none of them is playable anymore in pitched battles except in a grand alliance Order army.
     
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    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  7. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Good news for @NIGHTBRINGER !
    Tomb Kings unit lose Deathrattle keyword, also the liche priest loses Deathmages keyword. So not usable anymore for Deathrattle armies. Only mixed Death. Don't know about points yet.

    Stonehorns also got nerfed by the FAQ!

    Sayl nerfed as well, also some Kharadron units that were OP it seems.
     
    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  8. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Nothing new in the Order FAQ about Seraphon.
     
    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  9. NIGHTBRINGER
    Slann

    NIGHTBRINGER Second Spawning

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    NIGHTBRINGER, Aug 25, 2017
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  10. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Can anyone ask on Facebook or so what the he'll they were thinking?
    (About keyword changes)
    Maybe we can still play Oxyotl?? I'd like to have a clarification on that.
     
    Aginor, Aug 25, 2017
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  11. Drofnum
    Cold One

    Drofnum Well-Known Member

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    Q: If an ability or spell allows a model to be set up elsewhere on the battlefield, and the model is originally within 3" of an enemy, does it count as having retreated? A: No, unless specifically stated otherwise

    Can teleport units out of combat and it doesnt count as retreating it would seem.
     
    Drofnum, Aug 25, 2017
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  12. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Wait, Skink Chiefs lose their command? :C
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 25, 2017
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  13. Nielspeterdejong
    Terradon

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    Could anyone link to that?
     
    Nielspeterdejong, Aug 25, 2017
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  14. tom ndege
    Skar-Veteran

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    tom ndege, Aug 25, 2017
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  15. Xlanax_lot
    Troglodon

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    I think you can go bound that:


    reroll ones to hit from a slann constellation, or get +1 to the charge
    reroll hit rolls from an gastrolith bearer

    I am sure I am missing something there are just so much sinergies that we can use that it becomes hard to follow
     
    Xlanax_lot, Aug 25, 2017
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  16. Wazz
    Troglodon

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    Wazz, Aug 26, 2017
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  17. Aginor
    Slann

    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Going through the phases of grief and loss now. I loved playing my Skink Chief and I love the model I built and I am sad it was basically hit with a sledgehammer by GW.

    Part of that is trying to find facts helping me to accept it is OK that they removed him.
    So I did some math and at least for Skinks it looks good.

    Before the change we spent 380 points for getting 40 Skinks and the Chief so he could buff them.
    Using blowpipes that combo made around 12 wounds each round.
    Now we dont have the Chief anymore, but the Skinks have become much cheaper.
    So now we spend 200 points for 40 Skinks. They do less damage because we cannot buff their hits anymore, so they only cause around 9 wounds per round now.

    Since they are almost just half the price now we can field another 30, AND we dont need that hero slot.

    ...so basically we are better off now. At least with Skinks.

    I also liked to buff Stegadon or a Bastiladon or a Troglodon with him though. That won't be possible anymore. But then those got cheaper as well so their points-to-caused-wounds-ratio actually increased I guess.

    I will still miss him though.
    Perhaps he found Sotek and becomes a priest now so I will play him as that? Don't know....
     
    Aginor, Aug 26, 2017
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  18. Xlanax_lot
    Troglodon

    Xlanax_lot Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, do you know imhow the app gets updated when you purchase the GH 2017 i am trying to decide if its worth it go have the digital version
     
    Xlanax_lot, Aug 26, 2017
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  19. LordRibbit
    Temple Guard

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    Now the slann is almost an auto take you can still get re-roll ones for them, have a look at the list I've just posted so they could still be re-rolling 1's to hit and wounds, it's not all bad! The points drops mean we have much more synergy available now
     
    LordRibbit, Aug 26, 2017
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  20. Wazz
    Troglodon

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    I just updated my app now @Xlanax_lot the update said it was just for ghb2 really if that helps!
     
    Wazz, Aug 26, 2017
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