GW News: SKAVEN VICTORY! #NewAoS

Meh, still seems weird in this particular situation. Those others feel more like they'd actually work together better.

They simply forget them in the thing I linked earlier. They now have the pictures there as well. They look decent, though weirdly lacking in bones for a faction that so far was all about the bones.

 

I really wonder how large the skeleton is because i think it would make for a great mourngul conversion.

 

I think it makes much more sense to have all the Ogres back together within a single faction.

 

It does given that all the miniatures currently around had originally been designed to be in a single faction (Ogre Kingdoms), but with reference to @Canas's point, given that GW changed the lore of some of the Ogres (those in the Beastclaw Raiders subfaction) but are now going to reunite that subfaction with the other one that always preserved the essentials of the original Ogre lore, won't the lore for the combined Ogre Mawtribes faction now be a bit more disjointed than the original Ogre Kingdoms lore?

I don't know, perhaps GW will make some effort to reintegrate them together (indeed I hope so). As you say it makes more sense for them to be brought back together, not just because of the original Ogre Kingdoms army in Fantasy, but it also fits with the combined Goblin and later combined Orc factions in the Destruction Grand Alliance (Destruction creatures of the same species but different backgrounds banding together to backstab/bash/eat everyone else). I just hope that GW do manage to bridge the lore gap that currently exists between the two subfactions like they did with the Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz for Orc Warclans.

 

mm, if they change up the lore a bit it would be fine. I do hope they do that. Apart from the werid diverigent lore combining them makes perfect sense.

 

slaves to darkness should become the darkoath I guess.

But yeah, they've updated most things now.

 

Nagash effectivly has 10 tomes anyway since all undeath subfactions are Nagash so they can wait...

And yeah, Nurgle was the first with the new summoning mechanics, was the first with a terrain piece & had some properly unique faction nonsense with their cycle of decay mechanic. It's noticeable how much fancier it is compared to earlier tomes.

 

I hadn't realized that Kharadron Overlords were so neglected. I think they are among the cooler AoS factions.

 

Aside from their initial release I don't think they've really gotten anything. They got a shadespire warband I guess. And they're feature fairly frequently in the fluff as they are traders and mercenaries, so they're easy to insert.

 

That's a shame. They are a pretty unique and cool looking faction.

Just curious, are they even competitive in the AoS landscape? Are they near the top or bottom?

 

If I remember correctly they were super powerfull for a short while being able to outshoot basicly everything. But after a while the introduction of look out sir & the new factions being superfast (and thus immeadiatly in their gunline to rip them apart) indirectly nerfed them. Also they're one of the few factions without a significant magic presence so the malign portent rules caused them to fall behind as well. Overall I think they don't do super well on tournaments currently.

In more friendly games they should be fine though. If only cuz their entire army shoots & having a range advantage makes up for a lot...

 

Faction focus for bone people

• They have a army wide 6++, but at least it requires them to be near a "luitanent" unit or hero. Luitanents appear to be the alpha's of each unit. I think. Which makes this range requirement a bit pointless.
• They're immune to battleshock cuz they're super elite and stuff. Why the battleshock-phase is still a thing at this point is anyones guess. Despite it being one of the more interesting mechanics as routing an enemy by applying just enough pressure is far more satisfying mechanicly than killing every single one of em in a big brawl...
• They have special command abilities that use seperate command points (on top of the usual ones I guess in case you have allies). Also a lot of their regular units have these command abilities. Cuz you know they're all elite and stuff. This also means that you generate far more points so you can spam the various abilities. And of course it has the sideeffect of your army not falling apart when the heroes die cuz apparently everything's a hero in this army I guess.
• They aren't summonable, cuz they're elite and stuff. Nagash and Arkhan can still heal them though (how does that work if they don't have the summonable keyword?)
• Their statline is impressive cuz you know they're elite and stuff. Lots of wounds, high save, lots of attacks, lots of rend. They're not superfast though.
• Did I mention they're elite and stuff?

Imho, this is some ridiculously powerfull nonsense, with the only apparent weakness so far being that they're relativly slow. But I'm sure they probably have some movement based command abilities and other shenanigans to make up for that. I do hope they're going to be super expensive pointwise though, cuz for example mortek guard, their regular unit, is a horde unit. Has a 4+ save and a 6++, with spears they have 2" 2/3+/4+/-/1 or with blades they have 1" 2/3+/4+/-1/1 and they have a command ability to reroll failed save rolls. And that's just what's shown off. It seems rather powerfull for a basic unit, so unless their pointcosts are astronomical, or there's some massive drawback they haven't shown yet I feel like they're definitly going to be the new flavor of the month army...

Also, why is there like no focus on the ogers? It's weird, a new tome and barely any announcements.

 

Because they are not elite and stuff?