AoS Thoughts on potential new codex for Seraphon 2020?

i keep saying this but no one listens it'snot the same model the rummer lacks the spikes that the chaos beast has and the scales un the underbelly are different the rummer has a line pattern and the beast is sequenced plates. i had a comparisen pic but i don't want to dig thrue 20 pages to find it

 

Aw man, I was getting rather excited for a new year update, lol! I guess that means I should go ahead and grab the current battletome while we wait.

 

True. Could be worse. 5th edition WFB saw the Dogs of War army. 6th edition WFB saw a generic army list for them that worked, but was incomplete. I'm STILL waiting for a new armybook!

 

I just looked up that picture of the rumor engine tail and compared it to the new Slaves to Darkness mount, and you're right, they don't look the same. Here's hoping it's an upgraded Kroxigor model, lol!

 

Well, people waited for plastic Sisters of Battle for ages and were finally rewarded. It's unlikely, but you never know.

 

not your fault it's a very old rummer all people remember is that it was a dragonish tail

 

one day people will see

 

I know that not every army has gotten a new model since AoS came out, but it still would be nice to see the Seraphon get some updates given that unlike some of the other forgotten armies, we're actually supposed to be important to the setting. But it seems like their focus has been on the evil side of late, with Death, Destruction and Chaos all getting some really strong new stuff. I just hope that they're not having a hard time thinking of what to do for the Seraphon, as we know what happens when GW can't think of a clear direction for a faction (RIP Squats).

 

maybe, but Chapter approved makes extensive updates almost to the point that the codex's don't ever need to be reprinted in the same edition.

 

with DoK and the soul stealing Idoneth under "order" its rather hard to justify good an evil along lines of grand alliances . hell before Sigmar made his Sigmarines Nagash was happy to just rule the dead and let the souls come to him when it was their time. now he actively seeks out "his due" lol. Even Nurgle doesn't think hes evil... he just thinks he maintaining the proper order of life death and rebirth. Khorne also isn't truly evil... he just wants to have all existence be reduced to the strongest and have the weakness of his followers ( and every one elses) be culled to save resources for the best. kinda Thanos-esque in a way.

 

I forgot to never mention good or evil on the internet, lol! But yeah, we've got some nasty factions on the Order side, for sure. I was just pointing out that at least the last three major updates have been for Destruction, Death and Chaos respectively (I think Cities of Sigmar before that?). My main concern is that I hope them waiting until the last possible moment to update Seraphon doesn't mean that they're having a hard time coming up with what to do with them. When a company isn't excited about a particular faction, even when they decide to update them they usually end up nerfing them even more just from lack of interest.

 

If we do get nerfed I might just drop AoS and focus on my tau. They can’t possibly justify a shitty battletome at this point

 

I’d take a lower win rate for having options beyond Skink spam. In my eyes, if we can feasibly play a number of lists/ways, it’ll be a good enough Battletome.

If they also decide to make the Bastiladon shoot 2d6 MW, so be it...

 

um shur our win rate is 5th worst right now i get what you are saying but we realy can't afford to get any worse. out of 107 tournament attempts over the past 6 months we have never gone 5 and 0 and we have the third place for 0 wins we are not in a good place.
and if you are ok with lower win rates to not play skinks just don't field them your win rate will drop and you can play what you want
i love the sun cannon idea

 

I think making Saurus warriors tougher would go a long way to help us make more builds. I think that they would have been better with strength toughness because they could either be tough with low armor or be stronger. giving Saurus knights a 4+ save is also a good idea and new Salamander and Razordron models which come in groups of 4 or something like that. We could do with better spells and please I beg you to give us rend t. I know its part of our faction but everything even the cheap chaff has a 4+ save and the current meta favors Khorne and Stormcast which are tough nuts to crack. The dinos are fine although a reworked Troglodon would help. lastly i would buff our foot heroes and give temple guard 2 hp

 

Yes. I've been checking out other army's warscrolls for comparison, and I think it finally really hit me how much weaker stat-wise all our units are. Most other armies have a lot of units hitting and wounding on 3s, 4+ saves for their battleline units and 3+ saves for a lot of the elites/heroes. Not to mention rend, which almost none of our troops have, except for monsters and heroes. And even then it's far below what other factions get.

I didn't even think of this before (new player), but there are a lot of faction-specific endless spells, so I hope we get some of those as well. I really like the summoning mechanic, but I really wouldn't mind if it became less of the backbone of our army mechanics if it meant that our actual units were buffed up to be on par with the other factions. And I definitely agree that using strategies other than skink spamming needs to be made viable.

*Edit:* Please just for the sake of the lore and also being awesome, make Kroak as powerful as he rightfully should be. I mean, he's already on the level of a god, so he should be closer in power to Nagash and some of the other faction leaders

 

Lore wise Kroak is arguably the single most powerfull creature in existance currently, with maybe the exception of dracotion, he's the only one who survived the world that was without having his essence splattered across the place, even the chaos gods can't claim that...

 

the lesser slann can just shut down the chaos gods and he is stronger. he can move stars around has the highest kill count of any individual and even rivals some factions kroak is a absolute boss

 

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