Hi All, I've currently got 2 lizzie lists - one of which I've not been beaten with yet, and the other hasn't been tested yet as we are working on the basis of getting 1k points painted up , then add 500, then another 500 when that's painted etc etc.. anyhow. 1st list = Heroes: * Atvar, Saurus Scar-Veteran – Hand weapon & Shield * Kassnass, Skink priest of Sotek – Hand weapon, dispel scroll, Plaque of Tepok – Level 1 magic user with Lore of heavens * Core: * Group Hessef: 10 Saurus warriors, Hand weapon, Shield & Full command * Group Drefsab: 10 Saurus warriors, Hand weapon, Shield & Full command * Group Ianxx: 10 Skink skirmishers with blowpipes * Group Kirel: 10 Skink skirmishers with blowpipes * Special * Group Straha: 5 Cold One Cavalry, No command other than Standard bearer with the Sun-Standard of Chotek * Rare: * Pack Forsiss – Salamander Hunting Pack, 3 Skinks & 1 Salamander * Pack Skoob – Razordon Hunting Pack, 3 Skinks & 1 Razordon total cost is 1003 points - our group generally has a 1% leeway in points. So far, It's faced Skaven, Dark Elf, Wood elf & Brettonian for a 13:0:0 win:loss:draw - The only changes i've made is dropping a skrox unit down to the 2 skirmish unit and dropping the champion and musician fromt he CoC so I could get the Sun Standard in there as I figure the points for the champ/musician upgrade for the CoC is not worth one extra attack etc. List 2: Heroes: * Atvar, Skink chief with Terradon, Javelin, Light Armour, enchanted shield & Staff of the lost sun * Skink priest of Sotek – Hand weapon, dispel scroll, Plaque of Tepok – Level 1 magic user with Lore of heavens * Core: * Group Hessef: 15 Saurus warriors, Hand weapon, Shield & Full command * Group Drefsab: 15 Saurus warriors, Hand weapon, Shield & Full command * Group Ianxx: 10 Skink skirmishers with blowpipes * Group Kirel: 10 Skink skirmishers with blowpipes * Special * Group Straha: 5 Cold One Cavalry, No command other than Standard bearer with the Sun-Standard of Chotek * 3 Terradon Riders * Stegadon with Giant bow Rare: * Pack Forsiss – Salamander Hunting Pack, 3 Skinks & 1 Salamander * Pack Skoob – Razordon Hunting Pack, 3 Skinks & 1 Razordon Bang on 1500 points Ady