8th Ed. 1500 point vs HE

[Wizgamer]

Hi guys,

I got a 1500 point match (quite low, I know) against a HE player. I'm not sure if he can take the Phoenix at that point level.....

Heroes
Tetto'eko

Core
Skink x 30
Skink Skirmisher x 10, Jav & Shield (x 3 units)

Rare
Ancient Steg
Salamander

Special
Cold one Cav
Terradon x 5

Now, I'm considering dropping the steg to use the points elsewhere (like an extra sallie among others)

 

[Wizgamer]

or second option....

Skirmishers x 10, javelins & shields, (x 5 units)

Skink priest, extra level, dispel scroll, cloak of feathers
Skink priest, extra level, plaque of tepok, talisman of endurance

Sallie
Sallie
Razor

Terradon x 3 (x 2 units)
Baby steg
cham skinks x 5 (x 2 units)

Jungle Swarm

Decisions!................

 

[NightHawk45]

I play H.E. regularly. The phoenix cost 112.5 ss and 120 ss for the the flamespyre and the frost phoenix. So you can take one in a 1000 point game.

ss = skaven slaves

 

[Wizgamer]

Match night tonight! Going with the second army option.

Plan to run a terradon unit up each flank....
4 lots of skirmishers in the main field
steg and razor in middle
sallies up the sides of the skirmishers
skink priest 1 flying about
skink priest 2 protected at the back by last unit of skirm and jungle swarm
Cham skinks wherever they end up!

 

[NexS1]

I'll give you my HE expertise (hahaha)!
I would have gone with Saurus vs HE because you're wounding on a minimum of 3's, whereas skinks will have a hard time wounding. Also, skinks will absolutely get out-arrowed by the elven archers (You're poisoning on 6's, but they're hitting on 4's and wounding on 3's).
Given that you've got an entirely skinked army, I'd suggest the following;
-Steg up middle
-terradonss where ever he puts his smaller, unarmoured units (i'd imagine these being archers) so you can over shoot them, then rear charge or force him to spin around, then run off somewhere else
-sallies near his silver helms(he WILL take them, as they are newly COREified. If he doesn't i'd be very surprised). Note, do not take sallies against models with dragon armour (2+ward vs. fire)
-Jungle swarm as a warmaching hunter or combat redirector
-chamos 12" in front of ellyrion reavers (also newly COREd) so that he doesn't get a vanguard

That's my opinion on the matter! Good luck and let us know how you go!

 

[Wizgamer]

I won!!! By 300 points!

He took the flying chariot thing which a solitary unit of skirmishers held up for three turns. A unit of Terradon's rammed into the side and finished it off. The skirmishers only survived that long as I kept rolling 6's for the ward save.

He took the frost phoenix which only killed a unit of skinks and the jungle swarm

My skirmishers managed to take out two units of cavalry plus other potshots

He had a mass unit of archers with ballistic skill 4 and fired into my skirmisher chameleon skinks after moving (-1 for moving, -1 for skirmish, and -1 for cham)! He rolled 18 dice (due to volley fire) and didn't get a single 6!

 

[NexS1]

Hahaha he should have known not to aim for the chamos after moving!
Classic!

Also looks like skinks did better than ever! Well done!