8th Ed. 2,4k Lizards for tournament (again)

Discussion in 'Lizardmen Army Lists' started by Juhaaha, May 22, 2011.

  1. Juhaaha
    Razordon

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    Tournament is 2-3th July, Comps are:

    -No unit nor character can cost more than 450pts
    -max. 40 per unit.
    -max 4 warmachines
    -max 45 models that can shoot over 20"
    -max 3 flying units
    -max 2 same special units
    -max 2 same rare units
    Cant have more than 1 same monster
    -no Folding Fortress
    Spell can be cast with max 4 dices
    Spell can be dispelled with max 6 dices

    Plus some extra comps for certain armies:

    Empire: Stank and Helstorm Rocket Battery each count as 2 warmachines
    Max 1 Stank per army

    Deamons of Chaos: Max 1 unit of flamers. Max 3 Bloodletter units and/or Herald of Khornes per army.
    Battle Standard Bearer can take gifts OR Daemonic Icon
    Following Gifts can be taken only once: Siren Song, Spell
    Breaker, Master of Sorcery, Power Vortex.

    Warriors of Chaos: Max 1 warshrine per army. Chosens Champion cant take Favor of The Gods

    Vampire Counts: Only Invocation of Nehek Can be cast multiple times in magic phase
    Max 1 unit of wraihts, max 5 wraiths

    Max 1 per army: Master of the Black Arts, Forbidden Lore.
    Max 2 of following per army: Master of the Black Arts,
    Forbidden Lore, Drakenhoff Banner, Helm of Commandment, Book of
    Arkhan.

    Dark Elves: Can Cast spells with 5 dices
    Max. 35 Repeater crossbowmen, max 20 shades. Crown of Command is for model on foot only

    Lizardmen: Max 1 unit of salamanders
    Slann can have max. 2 from these: Cupped Hands,
    Becalming Cogitations, Loremaster, Battle Standard Bearer.




    Only thing I am thinking: Should I have cogitation instead of loremaster?
     
  2. Quicksilver
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    Odd that you would take a slaan with no temple guard...
     
  3. Juhaaha
    Razordon

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    not really. Having played now some 5+ games with solo slann, I like it more than standard TGSlann list.
     
  4. Quicksilver
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    I tried solo slaan too, but as a different role. I gave him the crown of command, higher state of consciousness, and then ran him into a 30-man unit of white lions... who could donothing about him for 3 turns until a unit of saurus wiped the table with them. I'm not sure how you're using your guy, though.
     
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    Razordon

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    I've tried slann with crown and ethereal. It's good vs some armies. But I like to have mine with 2+ ranged ward, cause I am bad at rolling 4+ ward vs cannonballz etc.

    Btw, Played test game vs empire, got butraepd. Didnt get his artillery killed soon enough, which limited my vets movement (hide behind a house for 4 turns..)
    Gonna have second game next week.

    I'm going to drop some saurus warriors and take second unit of skinks, I would have needed that a lot today.
     
  6. Paul Brown
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    There isn't much in the way of variety in the list, aren't you tempted by a Steg/Skink Krox etc. for more variety to deal with things?

    With Light Magic I would swap the GW for a Halberd on the other Scar Vet so you can benefit from Light magic more. I also like the Charme shield and Amulet of Iztul (2+ ward vs first wound) so you can pop out for one turn against Cannons etc. and then get into combat.
     
  7. Juhaaha
    Razordon

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    GW is for S7.

    I am not sold on skrox unit yet. IMO its too depending on magic buffs, while saurus warriors arent. Oh well, maybe i'm gonna give them another try.

    edit: hmm, skrox could actually do pretty well against empire because Kroxies S6. Might take them to the tournament as well should they perform ok.
     
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    I get the GW being Strength 7 but does it make much difference most of the time? What are you thinking you need ST 7 for? With other Lores I would go great weapons because it doesn't make much difference with I3 but with potentially I10 and maybe ASF having ASL makes a much bigger difference.
     
  9. Quicksilver
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    Being S7 with a character (especialy in a frenzied unit!) makes al the differennce against monsters and the like. Usualy if I took a character like that I would give him good armor/ ward saves, or stick him on a cold one.

    Has anyone tried taking a charcter with the Gold Sigil Sword (I10) or Sword of the Hornet yet? I think it would be some good redundancy in case you can't make the timewarp/speed of light.
     
  10. Juhaaha
    Razordon

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    Played agaisnt same empire with little changes (he had mortar instead of lvl1, I had stega instead of 20sh saurus warriors) I lost by 1000pts due some extremely bad luck on my part (dawn attack, so my deployment didint went as I planned). But overral game went better than before and wasnt such a buttraep as it was last time.

    Definatelly taking stega to my final list, it aint so bad as I thought.

    next game on saturday, going to be daemons, bretts or delves.

    edit: also, I made few mistakes, didnt charge the 5sh swordmen with sallies instead of firing, and timewarped saurus warriors could have actually killed the waltar and broke the pope.. oh well, better playing next time
     
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    Comps for the tournament are out, edited my list. C&C wellcome
     
  12. mukman12
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    izardmen: Max 1 unit of salamanders
    Slann can have max. 2 from these: Cupped Hands,
    Becalming Cogitations, Loremaster, Battle Standard Bearer.

    I though only one unit of salamanders? in your list it says two?
     
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    it is 1 unit of 2 sallies
     
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    Razordon

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    Tournament is over, I went 6-4 (ogres). 7-3( more than nice empire). 0-10 (WoC), 6-4 (Tomb Kings) and 6-4 (dark elves). Max 50 pts from battles, max. 30 pts from painting and fluff. I've got (IIRC) 39 total, 14pts from painting (Had I sent some hur dur fluff I'd have had 5pts more. Maybe next time!)

    4 wins and 1 lose, cant complain!

    I'll write a small report tomorrow about the games.
     

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