8th Ed. 2400 pts vs WOC

Discussion in 'Lizardmen Army Lists' started by boozecluez, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. boozecluez
    Jungle Swarm

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    Ok so the other game fell through but have lined up a game against a Warrios of chaos .
    Couple of lists with slightly different changes ,wondering which one would be better.

    I believe he will run a list like this :
    4 hounds, 2 x 6 marauders, 10 hellstriders, 10 knights with bsb hero, 2 x 3 skull crushers, 2 x chariots/ warshrines, 2 x disc riders, sorc lord and hero.



    LIST 1

    Slann - (Life) BSB, The focused Rumination,Focus of Mystery,Becalming Cogitation
    Standard of Discipline,Dispel Scroll

    Saurus Scar Vet - (Cold one) La,Shield
    Crown of Command,Sword of Striking

    Skink Priest lvl 1(Engine of the Gods)
    Dawnstone,Other Tricksters shard

    Temple Guard x 20 SB,Muso .(Slann Bunker)
    Saurus Warriors x28 Full Command (Stubborn Scar Vet Bunker)

    Skink x30 + x3 Kroxigors
    Chameleon skinks x8
    Chameleon skinks x8

    Salamander x2
    Salamander x1 with snack



    2398/2400

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    LIST 2
    Slann - (Life) BSB, The focused Rumination,Focus of Mystery,Becalming Cogitation
    Standard of Discipline,Dispel Scroll

    Saurus Scar Vet - (Cold one) La,Shield
    Crown of Command,Sword of Striking

    Skink Priest lvl 1(Engine of the Gods)
    Dawnstone,Other Tricksters shard

    Temple Guard x 20 Full command (Slann Bunker)
    Venom of the Fierfly Frog
    Saurus Warriors x28 Full Command (Stubborn Scar Vet Bunker)

    Skink x24 + x3 Kroxigors
    Chameleon skinks x10
    Chameleon skinks x10

    Salamander x1 with snack
    Salamander x1 with snack



    2400/2400
     
  2. Devean
    Saurus

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    Hey,

    Overall, it looks like a nice list. It's got a good mix of units and should be reasonably competitive against those WoC. I do have a few thoughts:

    1) IMO, it would be better to trade the opal amulet for the charmed shield. This gives you a 2+ one use save which is better than the 4+ save you'll get from the amulet. Also, you'll save a total of 13 points.

    2) Assuming that you have the SV in the saurus block, you could take out 2 saurus to make room for your hero. I don't know about you, but I like to have even ranks at the beginning of a game :)

    3) Doing both of these things will get you another 35 points. With this, you could consider getting that dispel scroll on the skink priest and perhaps trade out the GW on your SV for the sword of striking or equivalent. This would also mean the SV could use his shield in combat (1+ AS)

    Anyway, these are just minor changes, perhaps influenced by my play style. I do think it's good to include a dispel scroll though, just in case. Good luck!
     
  3. boozecluez
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    Thanks for the reply.

    1&2) Was thinking of running him solo ,but would he be better off with the Saurus ? Was thinking he would bring things like marauder cav ,or even skull crushers so was wanting something to fight them or at least keep the occupied .The 'on first wound' I thought may have been better compared to being 'hit' as he has a good armour save ? My thinking is with the crown of command he will be stubborn and be able to hang around a bit ,but perhaps he may be better off with the saurus on foot/cold ones..Losing the look out sir ,but better armour.Would need to add a champion to the unit as well if he was added.

    Have edited it based on your recommendations ,let me know what you think now :)
    Also would it be worth it now to run the saurus in horde or stay 6x5 to reduce casualties amd slowly grind down?
     
  4. Dunya
    Chameleon Skink

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    Looks strong I have to say. One thing to consider would be to change all your skirmishers into chameleons since you already meet the core requirement with the Skrox+Saurus, should give you a better answer to Hellcannons. Also I'd run with The Other Tricksters Shard+Luckstone on the EotG, generally a pretty strong choice and even better against Chaos. To find a few points for more Chamos I'd think about leaving the Cupped Hands at home, its not as vital with Lore of Life due to Throne of Vines.

    Just a few suggestions for small changes, but as I said, looks strong :)
     
  5. boozecluez
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    Hey good advice with the other tricksters :) Moved the Dispel scroll over and dropped the skirmishers ..Gave me enough points to purchase another cham unit and to try a unit of terradons which can take care of his warhounds/marauder cav .Also realised I only has 24 skinks when there should have been 30 (extra rank),alternative is to add TG hero and add VOTFF .
    Have posted an alternative list as well :)
     

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