8th Ed. 2999 points NO MAGIC

Discussion in 'Lizardmen Army Lists' started by GrindingMadness, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. GrindingMadness
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    GrindingMadness New Member

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    Hi!
    I Had this fun game, where we agreed that both wizards and bound spells were banned. We did this to train our use of our soldiers rather than counting on magic. He were playing Orcs and Goblins. Special Characters allowed.
    I just wanted some feedback on my list :)

    Lords and Heroes

    Oldblood
    Carnosaur, Shield, Spear, Light Armor, Scimitar of the Sun Resplendent, the Maiming Shield
    459 p

    Scar Veteran
    Cold one, Light Armor, Shield, Spear, Burning Blade of Chotec, Glyph necklace,
    167 p

    Scar Veteran
    Cold One, Light Armor, Shield, Spear, BSB Terror Banner
    192 p

    Core Units

    40 x Saurus Warriors
    Full Command
    470 p

    40 x Saurus Warriors
    Full Command
    470 p

    4 x 10 Skink Skirmishers
    3 out of 4 had a brave
    298 p

    Special Units

    10 x Cold One Riders
    Full Command, Huanchi's Blessed Totem
    425 p

    Rare Units

    3 x Salamander Hunting Pack
    Extra Handlers
    240 p

    1 x Aincient Stegadon
    275 p

    =2996 points
     
  2. n810
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    n810 First Spawning

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    NOT, BAD...

    Skink champins are fairly useless though,
    might sawp them out to upgrade the terror banner to something better.
     
  3. Qupakoco
    Skink Chief

    Qupakoco Keeper of the Dice Staff Member

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    I like the layout of the list, but I've got some beef with your characters.

    You have too many weapons on the characters except the BSB. The spears are not allowed to be used due to the fact that all of them are carrying magic weapons. So yeah, drop the spears. I believe the rule for this is stated right above the Magic Weapons table in the "I'm Using This One" section.

    On the Oldblood you have both a regular shield and a magic shield. Again, the magic shield takes precedence over the regular one rendering it useless.

    Also on the Oldblood, the Scimitar of the Sun Resplendent does the same thing as the Sword of Strife in the BRB. You don't have to swap them if you don't want to, but you are overpaying for the same benefit.

    On the non-BSB Scar-Vet, the Glyph Necklace could be swapped out for the Armor of Fortune. I bring this up because you can't have a spear so there's almost enough points to pay for the upgrade already. On top of that it would replace your light armor, so there's even more points back. Of course that would put you at 55 points of magic items meaning you'd have to swap out the Burning Blade of Chotec for something else. Maybe the Venom of the Firefly Frog and a Great Weapon as that would give you the same armor negation and the addition of poison. That's something you can think on.

    And yes, as n810 said, the Wailing Banner is meh. I'd consider giving him gear instead of a magic banner. Armor of Destiny would be nice.

    The rest of the list is good though. You have some nice combat blocks, hard hitting flankers, Salamanders, and re-directors. I reckon they'll mulch some Orcs.

    Oh! And welcome to Lustria-Online!
     
  4. GrindingMadness
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    GrindingMadness New Member

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    Thanks for your advice, I didn't have time to change the list before the game. But all in all i won with 468 points.
    The reason i took the terror banner was because of the orcs and goblins low leadership, but as it always happens with me it only worked in one situation.

    That was the round after he's ambushing spider riders arrived at edge of the table. I charged them they fled and died with their special character.
    But yeah I've been a bit confused around the magic items, so thanks A LOT for the tips. I'll use them next time.

    But another thing i could use som feedback on is my carnosaur. The problem i have with it, is that it died in the 2nd round of combat it was in against some orc bigg'uns(or how it's spelled).

    It got focused so it's armor save did not hold out. Anyways what's your experience with this cool-looking beast ?
     
  5. Lawot
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    Lawot Active Member

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    I really like the list, but unfortunately my experience with the Carnosaur is about the same - fought Black Orcs, who killed it one round and them ran down the Oldblood.
    Lesson #1: don't send the Carno in alone, send him in to break an enemy that is already engaged in combat. Also, don't ever let him get charged.

    Lesson #2: an Oldblood on a Cold One, with a unit around him, is much safer!
     
  6. GrindingMadness
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    GrindingMadness New Member

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    I used the carnosaur along with a aincient stegadon to flank and crush enemy units, one of the ideas was for the enemy units to flee due to their low leadership on a lot of them. But as always he made a lot of lucky throws and stood every time except once against my saurus calvary.
    But yeah it got killed so early, so i think i have to make a super flank with a carnosaur, a aincient stegadon, and a stegadon. Just to try it out and crush flanks like a boss
     

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