The group I play with always play 3000 pts and use large horde units Consistently up against HE,DE,Orcs,Skaven, & TombKings Slann: Dispell Scroll Egg of Quango Focus of Mystery Becalming Cog ScarVet: GW Armor of Destiny Carnasour Gor-Rok (give saurus wars stubborn) Saurus Wars 56 FC Temple Guard 46 FC, Gleaming Pennant Ancient Steg + Engine Ancient Steg Skink Skirm 10 Skink Skirm 10 Jungle Swarm 2 Have done evenly so far winning 50% of my battles. With both the main units having stubborn and the Asteg support they have done well against most units Though I tend to get pummeled by anything strength 6 if I don't get good magic rolls (proper buffs) I usually try to blast a Fiery Convo early and switch to a life spell or 2 smaller spells and 2 life spells The next switch is almost always to beast signature I usually ball up in the corner so everything gets the ward from engine and advance quickly to not get picked off from a distance. I have no trouble with monsters except ice phoenix and sphinx