i hate games workshops new battle points victory i beat my friend with his deamons in a 4 thousand point game. the final points given up was some where arround. 1700 to 3200 after 6 turns. the only good thing to come from the game was my Slann miscast and i was smart enough to bring The Cupped Hands of the Old Ones in which his 600 point character demon took one strength ten hit then was sucked into the realm of chaos for good. he had three units left on the board including 3 plague bearers 3 demonettes and the masque of slanesh. i lost one unit of cold ones to the marsh land that sucks troops and calvary down, because of over run. new victory points suck with so little of a chance to get a "victory" if you cant tell a little upset about this