8th Ed. against dark elves

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  1. Baggies
    Cold One

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    Hi people, how are we all. i have regular battles with Dark Elves and the same thing seems to be happening. I was wondering if anyone had the same problem as me. Basicly he alway manages to get the spell Black Horror, and always seems to cast it on my 20 sarus warriors, and kills them all, i am stillrelativly new to 8th edition Lizardmen. Does anybody know of an+y way of helping against this spell becasue it just seems to emmence to me as its only cast on a 11+ i believe. Any advice will help even it it seems blatenly obvious.

    Ian Clarke.
     
  2. DanBot
    Ripperdactil

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    Killing them all? Are you taking the str test with one die or two? It should only take out 1/3 under the template. You only roll one die per model and on a 1-4 you're safe. And regular practice for 2000+ lizardmen is a life slann. And dwellers goes off on an 18+ and is far more devistating of a str test than the dark elves. And only his gaurd have over 3 str. And with runemation you get a free die to add to your roll, so it's almost as easy to get off. I find dark magic lacking. He'd be better off running death and trying to IF your saurus with purple sun. But dont tell him. ;-)

    Might be worth mentioning that the Dark Elves can only pick from the lore of dark, death, metal, fire, and shadow. And if they pick dark magic they are a lore master. So he should always have his spell 6 of he picks Dark. My guess is you are taking your stat tests wrong. I imagine you are playing low piont games 1000-1500. And that spell should only take out 33% of everything under the template. Which shouldn't even be 33% of your unit. Where as the lore of heavens is extremely good in low point games. Unlike most other lore's spell 5 and 6 that scale with the size of units killing a rough % a unit, the lore of heavens always does 2d6 pre unit it hits. Which is a way higher % of the enemy's unit/army at lower pionts. And against dark elves at low pionts they normally can't run a BSB. Meaning they can't reroll failled panic tests. Puts them in a bad spot vs chain lightning and the comet. In fact I hit a DE player so hard with chain lightning one time, that 50% of his army fled off the board in a single cast because he didn't move foward wanting to shoot at me as long as possible. Sallies are also your friend. In my expirence, without pionts for a hydra and BSB, Dark Elves are no match for the Lizrads.
     
  3. Baggies
    Cold One

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    Thanks for the detailed reply, I was under the impression that all tests like leadership, strength, toughness ect were done on 2d6 have I been doing this wrong? I wold love it if I am!!!
     
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    Only leadership tests are taken in two dice. Everything else is on 1
     
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    Cold One

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    Sweet will make battles much better!!!
     
  6. forlustria
    Ripperdactil

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    where abouts in the DE does it say they get lore master if they take dark magic. I cannot find it
     

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