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AoS Balewind and garrisons?

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by MackiMac, Mar 9, 2020.

  1. MackiMac
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    Can a wizard sit atop a balewind vortex inside a garrison?
     
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    in a single word: yes
     
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    Really? Others I've asked have said that you can not
     
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    others are under the misinformed opinion that to be able to do something instead of moving you have to be able to move. break down of the logic of the rules:
    if you are outside the garrison, < 6" away and all enemies are >3" away, then you can garrison instead of move.
    if you are on the BVW you cant move. the wizard and the BVW are treated as a single model.
    when you garrison you remove the unit from the table and treat it as if it were inside the garrison, and measure all distances and LOS from the base of the Garrison.
    thanks to the skitter leap FAQ that applies universally, there is no argument as to wether or not we can LoSaT on a BVW and return to the table still on the BVW. as the whole thing is one model and returns in that unified state.

    thus, you can garrison while on the BVW.

    if you are already in the garrison, rules state yo can attack cast spells and use abilities as normal. so that's even easier.
     
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    This is also my interpretation.
     
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    yeah I never understood where the impression that you have to be able to move to do things instead of moving came from.. they even FAQ'd the "this counts as their move" wording a while back.
     
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    I think there is some ambiguity to the rules. In that the models garrisoned are specifically said to be removed from the table when it enter garriosons. So if you aren't familiar with GWs stance on BwV it is easy to come to the conclusion that BwV would be dispelled based off rules as written.
     
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    fair.. but until this book our faction NEEDED the BVW to be competitive, so I am flabbergasted that people wouldn't have learned the nuances to the rules their army lives and dies by lol
     
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    I still haven't seen the FAQ/Errata that makes the Skitterleap rule universially applicable.

    Any news on that front?
     
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    No, but this is fair RAW. That's the point.
     
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    I believe its in the designer commentary. I cant access Warhammer community (which includes the faq/errata/comments) while at work due to filters.
     
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    Per the rules, we can garrison with the BVW, but NOT in conjunction with a teleport ability. You can’t LOSAT into the garrison (wether on BVW or not)... but you CAN garrison while on the BVW.
     

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