7th Ed. Basic H2H list 500pts

Discussion in 'Lizardmen Army Lists' started by Elmquasmash, Aug 7, 2009.

  1. Elmquasmash
    Razordon

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    Well, getting an army started up, thought i'd start small :)


    Scar Vet: add spear, light armor, shield cold one 117pts

    Saurus Warriors x12: add musician 138pts

    Skink Skirmishers x10: no adds 70pts

    Cold one Riders x5: Scar rides with 'em 175pts

    Total: 500pts

    Now, musician is just to even the points at 500 and i'd rather have the extra bit of help in case the largest unit gets a little scawed.. The skirmishers because they rock apparently, and the cold ones so i can get started converting them ;)

    Now, its not the end of the world stop everything list, but i just want some basic input and small ideas before i start buying the pieces (tomorrow :p ) and maybe an idea or two on how to build around it..

    Any thoughts are appreciated :)
     
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    Cold One

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    Nice start on your army! Welcome to the denizens of lustria!
     
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    Razordon

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    ty :) i've been wondering about taking my saurus down 2 models and changing the mundane shield for the mirrored pools shield just in case.. any thoughts?
     
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    Cold One

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    I don't know, but when taking 2000 pts, take a Slann(or sometimes oldblood on carnosaur). This guy has been my main lord since I started, he's also a big points sink for his cost, and it's not too hard to add chakax and temple guard. Really, this whole unit can cost like 1000 pts for 90 dollars(40 for slann, 30 for TG, 20? for Chakax) which makes a big, Unbreakable, Re-rolling look out sir, LD 9, Seeing any magic items and hidden units in 20", T4, 2+sv/5(halberds) unit.
    And NEVER get TG in a non-slann army. They don't get stubborn, etc.
    Oh, and try not to give your slann too many disciplines, stick to 2 or 3, unless your really trying to fill points.
     
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    Cold One

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    I checked and it's over 1090, btw. It's also almost impossible to shift. Also add like 4/5 more TG
     
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    Razordon

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    yeah, i'm slowly building up my army to a tournament sized army going 500 pts at a time. I'll probably be buying 500 points each month or two until i get to around 2.5-3k (so i can have some choices on what to take instead of being stuck with the same list).. For now i think i am building up for a heavy grunt army which means no slann for now but i'll be buying one just in case i decide to use him in tournies.
     
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    Cold One

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    Slowly expand. I've almost painted my whole army, then I'll buy more stuff. Then paint it. Then buy more. Try not to buy until you've finished what you've got. It comes in manageable chunks, and then you don't buy 5 swarms and a carnosaur, as well as other stuff, then find out you don't want it.



    PS. Why have only 2 people posted on this thread so far?
     
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    Terradon

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    I wouldn't agree with this at all. There are times when TG w/ no slann can be very usefull. This has been discussed in at least 1-2 threads so far.

    As far as your list goes Elmquasmash, I'd say that you have a few too many points spent in your Scar vet. At 500 points the more troops you can put on the board, the more tools that you have to deal with the enemy. It's easy to break and run down a tooled up character, even in a unit of COC if you use the right strategy. I haven't tried running a list like this before though, so let me know how it goes.

    Best of luck!
     
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    Cold One

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    I agree not always, but the bonuses are just too good to pass up. Also, I almost never have a 2k army without a slann(i'm testing a carnosaur).
     
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    Razordon

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    well, i know the scar vet is a little beefy and it would be better to just take lvl1 priest pts wise but i'm doing the vet on CO so i can get started with his converting and painting :)

    i'll be sure to let you know how it works though!
     
  11. Eltharion
    Skink

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    Why not try out the Skink Chief? Used correctly and with the right equipment he can surely do miracles to a low cost. On top of that, he won't be hunted like the Scar-Vet.

    // Eltharion
     
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    Razordon

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    its just that in a 500 pts battle, ALL your pieces are hunted :)

    Now i am a little shaky on the 7th edi rules.. are characters still able to join units of skirmishers? If so a chief may be... acceptable :p I just like the survival odds of a scar vet vs the chief
     
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    Skink

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    All units will truly be hunted, but a Chief may be a little less hunted than a Scar-vet ;)

    Depending on the size of your character, he can join skirmishers. Looking at the Skink Chief, it's no problem to join other skinks since they are of equal size.

    The low T of the Chief makes him fragile, but rightly used he should be able to make it in smaller games. Mark though, that more units generally are more effective than expensive characters.

    // Eltharion
     
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    Cold One

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    FSoD(Flying Skink of Doom): Chief W/ cape of feathers and something else. In one games i gave him dagger of sotek, and armor as well. By the 4th or 5th turn, he flew up, and decimated the casket of souls in one round(he had some help, the EotGs powers destroyed his other 2 possible heroes to crew it.), and would have done it by the 3rd turn, I just forgot to charge with it. until then I kept him w/ a unit of skinks.
    So, in my army, i usuall have: Slann or Carnosaur; EotGs; FSoD; JSoD(Jungle Saurus of Death- scar-vet w/ jaguar charm and possibly great weapon, etc.- AKA nike saurus :D )or another skink priest(not on EotGs).
    But, that is a 2000pt list(or 2250, whatever you're playing)
    Other than that, a skink chief i find doesn't do to much(or scar-vet, unless in some situations), because they can't be where they need to be(AKA hunting war machines, exposed wizards, etc.), which could be halfway across they board.
     
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    Razordon

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    Hmmm thanks for the suggestions :)

    and Eltharion, its very true about having lots more less expensive models, maybe i'll try and figure out a list to accomodate the skink chief as well... i already have the scar vet so i think i'll give both ideas a go and see which i like better
     
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    Skink

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    Sounds good, remember that the best way is to try the ideas in reality :)

    // Eltharion
     
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    Cold One

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    Yeah, I'm testing a carnosaur, but I don't QUITE have the model yet, so i used 2 cavalry bases.

    PS. If you're wondering, he died. Both times. I think I'll need to get the model, so the dice gods won't be mad at me anymore... :D
     

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