7th Ed. Battle of the Oldbloods! Volume 3 - Skaven

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  1. Caneghem
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    Caneghem New Member

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    There were no giant monsters to really evaluate, so this time it is all expected number of kills.
    Format is Target: Blade of Realities/Blade of Revered Tzunki/Sun Scimitar + Maiming Shield

    Core:
    Clanrats 3.05 2.78 3.70
    Storm Vermin 2.92 2.78 2.96
    Rat Swarm 0.79 0.56 0.89
    Giant Rats 3.28 2.78 4.44
    Giant Rat handlers 3.18 2.78 4.44
    Night Runners 3.10 2.78 4.44
    Clanrat slaves 3.32 2.78 4.44
    Wind Globadiers 3.18 2.78 4.44
    "Pearls before swine" is the term that comes to mind here. The 8 attack Oldblood cleans up against lightly armored, T3 infantry just like with the elves. The abyssmal skaven leadership allows the BoR kill number to get very close to his number of average hits (which is 3.33). Even the most well armored skaven, the storm vermin, take the most wounds from the high volume of attack OB. BoRT makes friends with his 2.78 kills again.

    Special
    Gutter Runners 3.01 2.78 4.44
    Warplock Jezzails 3.18 2.78 4.44
    Plague Monks 3.18 2.78 4.44
    Rat Ogres 2.61 0.93 1.19
    packmasters 3.18 2.78 4.44
    I think for some of the skaven shooters, they always have to flee charges, so can't actually see combat. I guess they could always charge the OB, but I'm not too clear on that so I posted their numbers anyway. Nothing too surprising or different here, rat ogres being the closest thing to something worth sending the Blade of Realities after.

    Rare
    Plague Censer Bearers3.02 2.78 3.56
    See above.. I didn't do any of the artillery because I don't think they can even charge, and if they can they likely never would anyway.

    Another win for the Sun Scimitar. The one thing to mention as a caveat is that even the Skaven Warlord is only Ld 7, so no matter what defenses he's been given, the Blade of Realities will make short work of him or any other enemy character for that matter. Once again, the BoRT loses out here because all of its special effects are wasted on T3 lightly armored stuff. BoRT would be appropriate for handling enemy characters with lots of armor, but otherwise its potential is wasted against skaven.

    So the same rule applies as always... first one to call out another army decides which one is next!
     
  2. strewart
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    Do chaos mortals. :)


    Edit: Hmm this would appear to make the blade of realities basically the only thing in the game that doesn't allow Skavens fight in numbers leadership bonus thing, which is pretty cool. It would chop through anything, but as you observed there isn't really much worth chopping through. The characters can be pretty nasty though I guess.

    Again, thanks for the useful post. :D I'm thinking these should go into the tactics forum and be indexed.
     
  3. Caneghem
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    Warriors of Chaos it is, I've been looking forward to that one.
     
  4. strewart
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    Yes it should be very interesting to see which weapon excels against their high armour and toughness. I think Tzunki might stand a pretty good chance.
     
  5. Aparach
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    This is one of my regular opponents, so this should be interesting:) I'm guessing Tzunki aswell
     
  6. Grifthin
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    I can hardly wait myself
     
  7. jay.sar87
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    After all races are done you should compile them into one epic thread... And as different equipment configurations become more popular add these to the stats? :jawdrop: :D
     
  8. Caneghem
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    I was thinking along the lines of something like that. Just so everyone knows, I haven't forgotten about these, I'm working on an error in my %chance to kill formula that was inflating the odds of success. The number of wounds is correct though, and the % chances are still highest for the best chance and lowest for the worst, but being the obsessive nerd that I am, I must have a correct formula. I'll go back to the first three and fix the percentages first before posting Warriors of Chaos.
     

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