So I had a though for a new list using the end times rules Carno general + carno bsb + tetto using this list Lords Saurus Oldblood General Carnosaur Bloodroar, Loping Stride Magic Items BRB - Armour of Destiny, BRB - Dawnstone, BRB - Sword of Battle Heroes Saurus Scar Veteran Battle Standard Bearer, Light Armour Carnosaur Bloodroar, Loping Stride Magic Items BRB - Enchanted Shield, BRB - Sword of Strife Tetto'eko Core Saurus warriors Musician, 30x Saurus Warrior, Spawn Leader, Standard Bearer Skink Skirmishers Javelin and Shield, 10x Skink Skirmishers Skink Skirmishers Javelin and Shield, 10x Skink Skirmishers Skink skirmishers Javelin and Shield, 10x Skink Skirmishers Skink Skirmishers Javelin and Shield, 10x Skink Skirmishers Rare Ancient Stegadon Giant Blowpipe, Sharpened Horns (*), 5x Skink Crew, Unstoppable Stampede (*)