8th Ed. Dwellers below help

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  1. Lingbei
    Cold One

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    If there is a character in the unit do you roll for him separately to the unit? or just add him to the unit number and the unit takes the casualty?
     
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    I would say roll separately
     
  3. Lingbei
    Cold One

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    Thats what I presumed would happen, but wanted to know for next time I used it :) ended up killing one of his heroes with it
     
  4. rammramm
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    This is one of the reason why people are complaining so much about magic in 8th edition. There are a couple of spells (dwellers, purple sun) that allows neither LOS nor wardsaves and that kills instantly. Personally I play light so that I wont be tempted to throw 6 dice a round on his caster or general unit just to wipe them out early game.
     
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    Cold One

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    Indeed, I was able to cast it twice in one game. took out nearly the entire unit and nearly two of his heroes.
     
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    Purple sun does allow LoS as it is a template, it's Dwellers and the Dreaded 13th that don't.
     
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    Ripperdactil

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    Wait what!?
     
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    Saurus

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    Except that Purple Sun specifies no save. LOS is a save, therefore not allowed.
     
  9. Eladimir
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    I think its been FAQ'd to allow a LOS roll.

    At my home club we house ruled in a LoS for dwellers as well for just that reason.
     
  10. Gor-rok
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    The main rulebook FAQ includes magical vortex spells now as one of the things LOS can be taken against. This:

    Q: Does the ‘Look Out Sir’ special rule apply against all spells that
    use templates? (p93)
    A: Yes

    And this:

    Page 93 – Champions and Shooting
    Change the third paragraph to “The only exceptions to this are
    attacks that use a template (such as cannons, stone throwers,
    breath weapons, magical vortexes and so on).”

    Dwellers, on the other hand, doesn't use a template, and I can't find anything that indicates LOS can be used. Which is very unfortunate, if you ask me. Way to go if your house rules allow it.
     
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    LOS isn't a save its a USR with a function simmilar to save, saves however are used for wounds while LOS is used for hits.
     
  12. snake lover
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    Sorry i'm not good with abbrevations and i'm quite new to fantasy what is USR?
     
  13. HoverBoy
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    Universall special rule.
    Altho look out sir isn't even that it is a "roll" and as per RAW not a save (which as i said is used for wounds).
    Bsides with the FAQ as proof you can just tell your opponent your character gets LOS cuz GW said so.
     

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