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AoS Eastcoast GT: KC took 5-0 (not my list)

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by chefofwar, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. chefofwar
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    Just got back from an amazing event in Massachusetts this weekend. Everwinter GT.

    great mix of armies and players. great community. big highlight was the 5-0 winner kicking butt and taking names with a KC list! Saurus knights crushing it

    other fun stuff
    • tons of great hobby work
    • x5 shark deepkin list
    • pure blood knight list
    • 100% squig rider list
    • sylvaneth list with beetle queen went 3-2
    • good amount of bonereaper armies

    players always outweigh an army list

    my novice 3.0 hot take: ork players need to rethink their turn 1 alpha strategy. saw so many mawcrushers bounce and die and then lose the game. (including 2 against me in a game) give some CBD to those orks and set up a big turn 2/3 attack.

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  2. Erta Wanderer
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    that has always been orks problem. people who run orks run YOLO thats what they love simple as that
     
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  3. chefofwar
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    fair enough! cant deny living by the armies vibes
     
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  4. Jason839
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    Its an interesting list they had. Im happy they did well.

    5-0 list was this. Got it off BCP:
    Allegiance: Seraphon
    - Constellation: Koatl's Claw
    - Mortal Realm: Ghur
    - Grand Strategy: Prized Sorcery
    - Triumphs: Bloodthirsty

    Leaders
    Celestant-Prime (325)**
    - Allies
    Slann Starmaster (265)*
    - General
    - Command Trait: Arcane Might
    - Artefact: Eviscerating Blade
    - Spell: Stellar Tempest
    Engine of the Gods (265)*
    - Artefact: Cloak of Feathers
    - Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse
    Skink Starpriest (130)*
    Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (215)**
    - War Spear
    - Artefact: Amulet of Destiny (Universal Artefact)
    - Mount Trait: Beastmaster
    Skink Priest (80)**
    - Universal Prayer Scripture: Heal

    Battleline
    10 x Saurus Knights (220)***
    - Lances
    - Reinforced x 1
    5 x Saurus Knights (110)***
    - Lances
    10 x Skinks (75)*
    - Boltspitters Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
    10 x Skinks (75)**
    - Boltspitters Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers
    5 x Saurus Guard (115)**

    Units
    5 x Chameleon Skinks (115)*

    Core Battalions
    *Warlord
    **Warlord

    Additional Enhancements
    Artefact
    Artefact

    Total: 1990 / 2000
    Reinforced Units: 1 / 4
    Allies: 325 / 400
    Wounds: 112
    Drops: 12
     
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  5. Putzfrau
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    fair to say sam is also one of the best players in the country. Former ETC member, won adepticon with the thunder lizard battalion from our first book when everyone had wrote them off. Very talented player.
     
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  6. chefofwar
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    ^^^ yeah, this.

    it is great to see players like that prove how a meta/"weak" list/units can be disrupted and provide interest for other folks to do that too. doesnt have to be cookie cutter lists
     
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    bummed i missed the event and the chance to see your beautiful army again! was planning on going (had my ticket up to a few weeks ago) but unfortunately some things popped up that prevented me from doing it.

    Looked like an awesome event, congrats to all the winners and glad to hear you had some awesome games!
     
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  8. Kilvakar
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    That's really awesome! Glad to see KC doing some work! Even if it is from one of the top players it's nice to know you can still find a way to play them well :)
     
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    Our battletomb is bonkers. Our "weak" stuff is still stronger than most armies. That said the list is still soild. Slann + celestant + chameleons is a lot of mortal wounds that your opponent can't hide from. Knights have buckets of attacks and benefit nicely from the starpriest. Knights also play nicely into a meta full of monsters. Scar vets are also very strong on the flanks chomping down smaller units.

    It's nice seeing a list like this but just goes to show you that we can really play around with our book. Seraphon lists are some of the most varied lists on the tournament scene making our army very unpredictable and hard to counter.
     
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  10. chefofwar
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    threw some photos up of my games and armies
     
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    great looking army. what is that frog with the sword?
     
  12. chefofwar
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    skink alpha. last surviving frog of the screen
     
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    i love it
     
  14. Kakalou1
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    Excuse me for the stupid question but I dont understand how this list Can win against top meta army like Archaon, Tzeench, Lumineth ?
    I understood that he is a very good player but still just how ?
     
  15. Just A Skink
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    Ha ha. I agree that it does look like an unusual KC list. It would have been interesting to watch him pilot it.
     
  16. Just A Skink
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    Your army looks so creative and well painted (I've enjoyed the posts in the painting forum). I'm glad you got a chance to play despite not having more "official" GW models. I don't play tourneys, so I don't know how strict they are about that.
     
  17. chefofwar
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    Because the internet wants you to think that lists are more important than players. Also, matchups and battleplans and which matchup on which battleplan you get are hugely important to ultimately going 5-0.

    Good players make good decisions and thats why you see the best players going 5-0 with slaanesh and FEC or 4-1 with BoC. People focus way too much on how to make their list better/harder and way less time on actually making better decisions and understanding matchups.

    Hey man, just so you know the priests "starstone staff" ability is a start of hero phase ability. so you can technically roll it before choosing battle tactics!
     
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    Yeah I remember that from our game. But it came up in a match up concerning the exact order of operations for the start of hero phas stuff. I didnt want to argue the point I can see it being both ways.

    1. pick battle tactic
    2. heroic action
    3. any start of turn army stuff (like asterisms)
    4. hero phase stuff

    They seemed pretty strict on that order. so I didnt bother. Didnt care as most of the time it works out either way.

    Is there some sort of RAW interpretation of what order you do start of turn stuff?
     
  20. Jason839
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    it looks like he almost got max points every round. so id say he was very objective focused. thats a playstyle a lot of aos players just dont get. they want to line up like fantasy and go smash. aos it isnt that game anymore. its 40k lite. you gotta always focus on primaries and secondaries.
     
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