Well then My army is slowly taking shape at long last. A block of saurus, three units of skinks, a slaan, a stegadon, a oldblood on carno, some chiefs and a block of TG. Whatever. Looking over the things I plan to buy in the future (pretty much three packs of everything not mentiond above, excluding CoC. I'll settle for one of those.), I came up with the diea of getting myself a second stegadon with eotg. Partly because I'v heard it can be quite hitty, but mostly because I adore the new stegadon model. Atleast past the part where I think about the near 40 hours my current steg took to paint. I digress. Firstly: I might be quacking now, not to good on the 8th rules. But am I right in thinking that instead of a set restriction of units, you must/can only spent x% of points in your army on this and that? If so, does the eotg stegadon count as being part of the hero deparment, or the rare unit one. Want this cleared out since I really want those rare points for my salamanders and razordons. So is it classified as a monstrous mount for the priest, and therefor part of his value, or does it have a seperate value as a rare? Secondly: Would you actually bother fielding a eotg at this stage in the game, or is it a waste of points. Also, how would you use it if you fielded it? I was thinking of using it in conjunction with a saurus unit on one flank, buffing it with ward saves while moving, and adding the burning alignment once it got in combat, along with the stegadons natural CC prowess. All the time staying within 24 of the Slaan for spell mirroring. Thirdly: Is it worth making the skink priest riding this thing a 2nd lvl wizard? Thus making him a 3rd lvl wizard for the purpose of generating power/dispell dice (according to eotg rules). Cheers! Dan - Avid fan of the units no one else uses or finds remotely helpfull
First Question- Yes the Steg with EOTG counts as a mount for the preist and therefore comes out of your heros points allowance. Second Question- I always field an EOTG, undispellable magic that generally doesn't allow armour saves, on the back of a terror causing, impact hitting at str 6, attacking at str 6, and thunderstomping at str 6, badass looking dinosaur. yes please!!!!!!!!! And i use it very much the way you suggest, flank charge supporting saurus or picking on light cavalry are my stegs favourite past times. Third Question- Depends if you need the points elsewhere in the list. I personally do, but if your low on points, keep him lvl 1 and give him the plaque of tepok, this way he gains the extra spell for 20 points less than the lvl upgrade, but not the extra +1 to casting/dispelling, he shouldn't have to dispell anyway if your taking a slaan. Hope this helps. Yours Aye Mixer
Thanks for the reply! Will definately look into getting me one of the beasties then. Planning on using him in conjunction with an army led by my old blood on carno, and giving him a magic lvl of 2 (3 for eotg) to pick up the slack in the magic phase. That could however lead to a very expensive charecter list... hmm... will have to look into that. Anyway, thanks for the advice.
No probs, just be aware that the extra level given by the engine only applys to casting/dispelling, i.e a level 2 priest still only gets 2 spells, not 3. Yours Aye Mixer
Another thing to note is the skink chief with warspear. This guy is really good! I have my stegadon so that I can use it as either the EOTG or the skink chief. 2d6+1 impact hits is amazingly effective against almost every unit you run into (it destroys HE and their ASF).
Agreed Arli, problem with this list is no preist=no magic without a slaan. But a tooled up lvl 2 priest on foot would facilitate the warspear chief, another good option for you to think about Stormfrog, although you would lose the EOTG magic. Yours Aye Mixer
Technically, its the name of a slaan stupid enough to choose lore of heavens. Yes, I actually DID do that once.
Wouldn't be my choice i have to say, but i do feel Heavens is very underated by many. Contains 2 spells that do D6 str 6 hits, an't be that bad. Yours Aye Mixer
I think there is something to be said for a slann (with loremaster Heavens) and one or two skink priests. That is alot of iceshard blizzard going around. Not to mention the comet or chain lightning.
Chain Lightning is awesome, but not my fav. For me Urannons Thunderbolt is great, both against units better even better against individual characters or lords strolling around on griffons/ dragons etc. I like to cast Chain lightning first, watching the enemy throw most of his dispell dice at it, then with a rye smile, stating i'm going to cast D6 Str 6 hits against his lord on griffon for example, which he is unlikely to stop. Also don't forget, D6 from the thunderbolt then because the mount is a flyer, it gets smacked by D6 Str 4 hits due to the lores attribute. Yours Aye Mixer
OH, right! That clears things up a bit. haha I know this isn't in coherency with the OP, but in your opinions what is the best lore to go with a Slann in a Saurus biased army? Running about 24 Skinks (Skirmishers)?
Lizardmen generally love both lore of light and lore of life. Life is great for dishing out toughness 8, regen and dwellers. making your army very, very hard to kill. Light has spells that counter saurus' two weaknesses, low initiative and low(ish) weapon skill. With the lore, if you manage to get both main spells off, you'ld be looking at WS 10, I 10 saurus (one spell) with always strikes first (the other spell). Both are terrifying propositions. Yours Aye Mixer
a dual list containing life and light would be utterly disgusting and everyone would hate you. Just think WS 10, I 10, ASF, Toughness 8 with a 4+ regen saurus. Yours Aye Mixer
That's the plan But then again, you have to take into consideration dispells, miscasts (With throne of vines no worries) and general game plan too. Though you are taking a dual Slann list, if everything else falls apart around the slann, well then they havn't performed then? haha Infinite possibilities!
I remember once a friend and i combined our lizzies for a 5k game once: Without going into detail we had: 2 slaan, 1 light 1 life 2 x 20 TG for 20 per slaan 2 x 40 saurus spearman (mine) 2 x 40 saurus hw/s (his) 3 stegs 3x3 sallies 9 terradons Plus scar vets/preists dotted around against 5k of high elves. Best bit was the elves hadn't seen our list prior to the game. Just imagine complete confidence with thier 40 sword masters and 50 white lions plus the rest when they see us setting up 4 horde units of saurus and 2 slaan, the looks on their faces was priceless. Yours Aye Mixer
It was awesome, it took about 16 hours to play over 2 days in the local GW. It took so long because no turn limit was put into effect. It was decided that with 2 massive, fully painted armies it was used as a bit of a showcase. So many people and kids hanging around the table just prolonged everthing. It was great though and we ended up with a 200 victory point win. Yours Aye Mixer