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  1. Aginor
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    Yeah. I don't like ranks. Mass armies are blobs as soon as the fighting starts.
     
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    May I ask why? There is a plethora of choice out there. Try other things!
     
  3. Lord-Marcus
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    Not if they are properly disciplined
     
  4. NIGHTBRINGER
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    No doubt that there are many great models/companies to choose from. For me though, I'm interested in my 3 main armies (Lizardmen, Warriors of Chaos & Tomb Kings) and I really like when my models match up well to one another aesthetically. Some other companies may be able to produce models that are comparable to GW, but aesthetically they don't quite fit my needs.
     
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    More for me then I guess.

    Still....... Get painting!
     
  6. NIGHTBRINGER
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    Indeed.

    I don't paint (often), I cause mischief!
     
  7. Lord-Marcus
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    Then build miniatures! Idc, just hobby!
     
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    I see that you are in cahoots with our Guardian of the Paints, @Crowsfoot
     
  9. Lord-Marcus
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    We share like goals, yes.
     
  10. Aginor
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    You mean if they want to die. Because outside of Asterix stories not even Romans did that.
     
  11. Lord-Marcus
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    Do show me evidence please.

    Macedonian phalanx

    Greek phalanx

    Romans with line cycling
     
  12. Aginor
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    All of those did still "flow" towards the sides if possible, for example to get more people into the fight/circle the enemy, and of course they shifted to fill gaps, either because of own losses or because the enemy line broke up. The guys who didn't have an enemy right in front of them wouldn't just stand around doing nothing.
    Of course they stayed together if possible, but viewed from above their formations would have looked more like an amoeba than a rectangle.

    Historical texts from Macedonian times describe that and Romans even had drills for who would fill which gap and how.

    I can dig up some sources tonight but from the top of my head one of them was "De Bello Gallico" and dynamic phalanx fighting during the battle of Leuctra is described in Xenophon's "Hellenika".
     
  13. Lord-Marcus
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    Ok, so roughly rectangles. I never said they stayed rigid
     
  14. Aginor
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    Rectangles, "U" shapes, circles, triangles, even shapes that had a few warriors (groups of six or so) protruding forward like the fingers of a hand into empty spaces to create mini-flanking pressure on the enemy.

    In some of them it would be hard to even see "ranks" because in a fairly equal fight the front ranks would die quite quickly and not all at the same time, creating a bit of chaos no matter how disciplined the army was. It is just the nature of battle.
     
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    True, the contact point is always a bit of a swirly mess
     
  16. Aginor
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    Yeah definitely not something I would want to be in. :D
    Especially with tactics like pushing from behind (phalanx did that as well).
     
  17. Lord-Marcus
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    Like the wall of death at a metal concert without the good Samaritans
     
  18. Aginor
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    Haha yeah that describes it pretty well I guess! Except everyone had spears. :D
     
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    Or short swords
     
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    The grand order allegiance allows you to bring anything order, the seraphon allegiance would limit you to just seraphon and their allies (SCE currently..) I think tat's what he meant.
     
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