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AoS HELP TOURNAMENT TOMORROW 500 POINTS PLEASE

Discussion in 'Seraphon Army Lists' started by Lord Skal'terakk, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Lord Skal'terakk
    Chameleon Skink

    Lord Skal'terakk Well-Known Member

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    Hi.

    GREAT SERAPHON, LIZARDS OF THE STARS AND THE JUNGLES, PLEASE, I SUMMON THY ONCE AGAIN IN MY TIME OF NEED FOR I AM AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HORRIBLE AT MAKING LISTS

    And also, I can't find the new points values anywhere. So anyway, I have a 500 points tournament tomorrow, I just got invited to it, and I wanted to know if you could give me an idea of what to pick. Because, even though I always feel bad and lame when I ask for a custom list made, there has always been some scaled angel, some badass incredible being giving me advise.

    Honestly, I don't think any other faction has this. I'm sorry that I don't put the point value besides the stuff, but I couldn't find them anywhere for some reason... here's what I got:

    Slann Starmaster
    Astrolith Bearer
    Oracle Skink on Troglodon
    Oldblood on Carnosaur
    Oldblood
    Scar-vet on Cold One
    Sunblood
    2x Skink Starpriest
    Skink Priest
    Ripperdactyl or Terradon hero, if not using the unit

    40x Saurus Warriors w/ spears
    20x Saurus Warriors w/ blades
    20x Skinks w/ blowguns

    1x Razordon pack
    3x Ripperdactyl Riders
    3x Terradon Riders w/ bolas
    1x Bastiladon w/ SE

    Balewind Vortex


    Maybe I'm pushing my luck, but if anyone answers this summon, idk, I'll owe you one
    Mega excited for tomorrow! Thank you all for everything!
     
  2. Lizerd
    Skink Priest

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    Points:
    Slann 260
    Astrolith bearer: 140
    Oracle on Troglodon:260
    Oldblood on Carnosaur:250
    Oldblood: 120 or 140, I can’t recall precisely
    Scar Veteran on Cold one: 100? May be 110
    Sunblood is around 120
    Starpriest for 120
    warriors are 90 for ten, with a discount for 320 for 40 models
    Razordons and Salamanders are 80
    Terradons and Ripperdactyls are also around 80

    so for your list I would do koatls claw coalesced as alliegence
    For heroes do an oldblood (or sunblood) and starpriest (around 240?)
    And then 2 units of 10 saurus warriors with clubs
     
  3. Lord Skal'terakk
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    You beautiful genius! That's basically exactly what I would have wanted, I'll deffinitely give it a go tomorrow! Thank you, brother
     
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  4. Lizerd
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    Good luck! But one more thing. What artifacts are you interested in?

    edit: your probably going to want eviscerating blade on the Oldblood
     
  5. Lord Skal'terakk
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    Alright, I'll keep that in mind! I haven't looked at the artifacts still, tomorrow I'll take a look at the book and get ready for action. Thanks, buddy, you're awesome
     
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  6. Lizerd
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    One more thing as well, we should double check with @Erta Wanderer or with @LizardWizard . They know their stuff really well and it’s always good to get a second opinion
     
  7. Erta Wanderer
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    ok so what you have so far is good
    sunblood 130
    starpriest 120
    so 250 in heros
    i wouldn't take minimum units of saurus you relay want the horde bonus so ablock of 20 is 180
    that makes 430 do you have geminids or somthing that would proxy well? that would fit perfectly and is the best endless spell for us. failing that 10 skinks can block for your saurus letting them hit before they take to much damage.
    subfactiong koatle would be best it determens your artifact but its a good one
    tide of serpents as your star priests spell hard to cast but hit's like a truck
     
  9. Lizerd
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    Good catch, although if we’re talking skinks, we could also consider them with clubs as they could do decently
     
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  10. Erta Wanderer
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    clubs and bolt spiters are the new best load out. the shields don't do enough to make them durable i would just go all out offensively play into our glass hammer nature
     
  11. Lizerd
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    I wouldn’t say we are glass hammers, coalesced seraphon are fairly tough for their points cost, much better than they used to be
     
  12. Erta Wanderer
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    oh then what in our army can take damage? and no buffing them to high heavens doesn't count. we deal solid damage and we aren't ogres lvls of bad but we don't have a real anvil in the army.
    so embrace it! lean into it! we are terrifying lizards that burn brightly and then go out.
     
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    Carnosaurs and a good chunk of a saurus stuff is fairly solid (for its price point). In general most of our monsters are fairly sturdy, but if your expecting Ossiarch levels of endurance, your looking in the wrong place. I’d say we are tougher then a decent chunk of armies, in particular our saurus
     
  14. Erta Wanderer
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    im not looking for mortec. im looking for sequaters or chaos warriors or eternal guard. something with a 3+ save. but i don't think our defense comes from saves i think it comes from mass debuffs hence why geminids is my go to and why i always have a starpriest
     
  15. Lizerd
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    Temple guard can be similar to chaos warriors or liberators for a similar price, and they are pretty solid offensively. In general we went from 5+ to 4+. Another thing of note is we can burn cp or spells to reroll saves of 1.
     
  16. Erta Wanderer
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    or make our guys -2 to be hit and give enimies -1 to all attacks
     
  17. Lizerd
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    That’s also pretty awesome, I love how versatile the starpriest is. In general it’s not hard to make our guys more durable, so overall we are solid.
     
  18. Lord Skal'terakk
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    How do you do that? And wouldn't a Razordon pack be better than skink? This is amazing, thank you both for this discussion!!
     
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    Mind you I've no experience with AOS but I've a similar collection to yours that I'm converting from square to round base right now. The 500 point list I came up for myself, in my opinion, gives lots of options going forward:

    Old blood
    Skink Priest

    20 Sarus spears and full command
    10 Skinks blow pipes
    Salamander

    500 points total.

    I think above allows you the flexibility to try out the different options of new book while not hamstringing you building up in points.

    Again though my recommendation is only based on my own theory hammer with no aos 2.0 games under my belt.
     
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    geminids has 2 models 1 drops hit rolls by 1 for every unit it passes over the other drops attacks by 1 unfotunatly the don't stack. the starpriest has a spell that also drops hit rolls by 1
     

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