Hi everyone!

[Enigma]

Hi everyone!

I've played WH40K for about 6 years but have gotten real bored of the rules. So besides Blood bowl and Battlefleet gothic I feel I should give WHFB a shot as well. And of course I choose lizardmen as my first army (who doesn't like dinosaurs?)... ok, I was quite tempted by skaven as well with all their weird contraptions and assassins, but I think I'll be happier with the lizards^^

I've been trying to start an army since the last lizardmen armybook was released, but i never got around to really start buying anything. At the moment I've got a scarveteran/oldblood on foot and a box of saurus warriors to put together and paint. I've also got the latest armybook, and I was wondering: I've read through the old book and knew bit of how the lizardmen army worked, but now it looks as if a lot of stuff has changed: No more spawnings, no more slann generations, weaker kroxigors and lots of new characters and models, just to name a few things. Could someone give me a rundown of what's changed and how it affects the lizardmen army of today?

Also, sorry for my lousy english, it's been far too long since I wrote in english

Cheers!
//Enigma

 

[strewart]

Greetings, welcome to the forum!

The changes may seem a little bit daunting, but they are actually quite subtle. There are no more spawnings, but saurus now automatically get the armour spawning for free. Instead of generaions, Slann now have a list of quite good abilities to choose from. Magically, they are probably better than 6th ed, the downside is they can now suffer from miscasts. Yes kroxigor got screwed over a bit, but they are still useful in their place.

What you find in the new book is that spear saurus are awesome, and saurus are actually worth taking. The carnosaur got a huge boost, and stegadons are now the focal point of the army with a great new plastic model that assembles like a dream and several options, plus the opportunity to field a sickening amount of them in a list.

 

[Enigma]

heh, thanks!

What is it that makes the slannn better casters than before? just being curious.
I've noticed the saurus changes and I must say that I really want to get a couple of blocks of them with spears
And the stegadons... ahh... The problem is that there's so much I need to get before I can even think of getting all the fun stuff (core units) ^^

Cheers!
//Enigma

 

[Barotok]

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing you join the discussion.

 

[strewart]

heh, thanks!

What is it that makes the slannn better casters than before? just being curious.

Well, technically it is the potential to be better if you pay the points, base price is cheaper now. You can have all the spells of a lore, a free power dice for every spell (very good), and weaken enemy magic by making one of their wizards ignore 6's. I'm not that familiar with the 6th ed version so I can't make too good a comparison, just going off other people's observations and what I think of the new Slann.

 

[Enigma]

well that's true, but if i remember correctly you could have your slann ignore miscasts and had a new spell... drain magic? I have no idea if i was any good though

Still, I've noticed that the slanns are cheaper now, which I'm thankfull of =)

Cheers!
//Enigma

 

[strewart]

Yeah vulnerability to miscasts is the biggest downside now, and probably part of the reason the Slann is cheaper. Plus the miscast table in 7th ed is a bit more deadly than it was in 6th. But he can take Cupped Hands to not only ignore the first miscast (and hopefully you only have 1 in a game) but throw it on to an opponent mage, which is great.

 

[Enigma]

I've thought of using that one, seem like a fairly good item. But what happens if I roll a misscast and transfers it to an orc & goblin player? Does he roll on the misscasts in his armybook or does he get to roll on the table in the rulebook?

 

[strewart]

According to the FAQ (or what is interpreted from the German version so far) armies that have their own miscast tables use it. So yes, the item is more deadly against O&G and Ogres. I think those are the only two armies with unique miscast tables.

 

[Enigma]

So there is an official FAQ now? Where can I find it? The german GW-page?

---<Edit>---
Nevermind, I found it after looking for myself.
Now to learn german -.-"

 

[strewart]

There is a thread I think in general discussions with a summary of what the FAQ said in english, otherwise just wait. Sometimes hopefully within the next week an english version will come out on the UK, US, Aus etc websites.