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AoS Let's talk about nerfs and buffs from 3.0

Discussion in 'Seraphon Discussion' started by The Tipsy Dragon, Jun 16, 2021.

  1. Nart
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    Nart Well-Known Member

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    Ghur mage is very good for melee builds. +2 to charge and run is awesome on any unit. Combine with Starseer to reach whatever you want starting from turn 1.

    -1 to-hit never hurts too.

    And phoenix is great in every way. It is a very survivable debuffer, which can protect and follow our monsters.
     
  2. Christopher
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    Christopher Well-Known Member

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    Are you guys talking about the fire and frost phoenixes? I looked at their war scrolls on the GW website (those attached to the model product pages) and didn't notice anything about debuffs.
     
  3. Carnikang
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    Carnikang Well-Known Member

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    Pour one out for the Slayers.

    But for Cities units... I'm really looking hard at the Phoenixes, their Phoenix Guard (4+ ward save!), The battlemages, and the Scourge runner Chariots. Single model units that can be the unit leader, and have a decent shot that can hurt pretty bad? And they can act as a big area screen, and if they're still cheap (need to check) they can be used as speedbumps or for flank harassing. Part of me is also looking at the Hydra and Kyharibdis, but that's more because I like big beasts.

    Lots of conversion potential in cities allies too.
     
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  4. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    Look at the frostheart Phoenix and see that it's Frost aura gives all opponents attacks -1 to wound
     
  5. Christopher
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    Christopher Well-Known Member

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    Will do, thanks!
     
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  6. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    don't forget chain lightning. it has a lot of potential with so many MSU on the field
     
  7. Dread Saurian
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    With the ghur mage the Phoenix the slann and the skink priests we can literally just play a juggernaut style where we just muscle through things with our behemoths. So many buff spells so little time
     
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  8. Christopher
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    Christopher Well-Known Member

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    I find your proposal interesting and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
     
  9. Christopher
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    Christopher Well-Known Member

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    I'm completely serious. Tell me which units to order to make something impressive work. I'm traditionally very meh at the, y'know, actual game side of this game and it would be fun to win a game or two before all my local pals figure out what I'm doing and undermine me--I say UNDERMINE ME!--with their sigmarite zombie dragon helicopters.
     
  10. Dread Saurian
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    Sorry at work for another 8 hours but let's try out the most likely one to happen. 2 Scarvet carno/1 scarvet 1 bastiladon, slann, 2 skink priests, frostheart Phoenix, ghur mage.

    For fun I'd say fill the rest of your army with knights so they can keep up with your carnos and of course have your secret service with ya slann buddy so he can stay alive longer to keep buffing the big scalybois. And be sure to snag the Shackles spell
    It's kinda worth it.

    Yes this is an expensive mess. But it's not on my insanity at trying to make a double dread saurian comp work

    For a truly hard to fucking kill comp toss aside the carnos get 2 bastiladons that way you free up some hero slots if you want to snag a skink starpriest for more buffing
     
  11. Acehilator
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    I think a Monster Mash list should have a Steg Chief. He is a much better recipient for Prime Warbeast, and he can take the Cloak of Feathers. With that setup, he is easily worth his points. Rend is becoming more important with All-out Defense being a thing. And Stegadons in general will see increased value in their "Armoured Crest" rule, with more MSU on the field.
     
  12. Lambs and Lions
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    In the tactics section I have a thread comparing Carnasaurs to Stegadons. So people seem to think that the Skink chief on stegadon is unplayable at it's current point cost of 305. I disagree, I think that it is still very strong. But you might want a look at that thread so you can see what people are talking about.
     
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  13. Dread Saurian
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    Yallgoing with skink chief steg. hey if ya like it go for it. I'm not a gatekeeper
     
  14. Dread Saurian
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    But some of yall are forgetting. He asked me what I would recommend to him and I gave him a few options so he can experiment. Yall know I'd be like yo throw this 250 dollar mini in there and see what happens
     
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  15. Dread Saurian
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    No double scarvet you can't have more than 6 heroes and a frostheart phoenix is counted as one shit. So @Christopher try this instead. It's kind of a standard voltron carno comp
    Slann
    Scarvet carno
    Frostheart phoenix
    Ghur mage
    Skink priest
    I will give you the option for your final hero but I'd probably give it to starpriest because why not?
    Have fun with your picks afterward
     
  16. Canas
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    phoenix only counts if you put an annointed on it. So if you're willing to sacrifice the ward save & the halberd attack you can use it as a regular monster.
     
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  17. Erta Wanderer
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    a much cheaper monster but no ward hurts
     
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  18. Lizerd
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    *sniffs* hmmm. You need more carnosaurs, 3 might do the trick ;)
     
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  19. PJetski
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    Until they release an errata to state otherwise, you can take duplicate artefacts across your army.
    So you can take two Carnosaurs and give each one a Blade of Realities (assuming you have an extra Enhancement)
     
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  20. Christopher
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    Thanks, everyone! Lots to think about!
     

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