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AoS Range bonuses and endless spells

Discussion in 'Rules Help' started by TheRedLizard, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. TheRedLizard
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    TheRedLizard Member

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    Hi, quick one here.

    If I have Slann within range of an Astrolith and on top of a balewind, can I then set up a Purple Sun of Shyish within 18" (6" base + 6" astrolith + 6" balewind)?

    Thanks
     
  2. Erta Wanderer
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    Erta Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    yes the only exception to range boosts is the bale wind itself
     
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  3. ILKAIN
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    I was under the impression we just couldn't use arcane vessel, but that we could boost range with astrolith and BVW
     
  4. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Nope. Thanks to Morathi they nerfed it to the ground. There is no way at all to boost spell range on Endless Spells.
     
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  5. Erta Wanderer
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    i will conseed to your knowledge on the subject
     
  6. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    You shouldn't!

    I forgot to mention the source, sorry.

    It is in the designer commentary to Malign Sorcery (and I think they also have it in the GHB or the core rule book as well)


    Q: Do things that increase the range of a caster’s spells also apply to the distance at which an endless spell can be set up from the caster?

    A: No. Things that increase the range of a spell’s effects do not apply to the distance at which an endless spell can be set up. By the same token, things that allow you to measure the range of a spell from a different location to the caster cannot be used when setting up an endless spell.
     
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  7. ILKAIN
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    I really wish they would have just specified her range boost didn't affect endless as opposed to nerfing all of us, especially since the whole freakin advertisement for them was us using arcane vassel
     
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  8. Aginor
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    Aginor Fifth Spawning Staff Member

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    Yeah it was ridiculous.

    Especially for us. Someone wrote an awesome warhammer community article how Seraphon, the masters of magic, can use arcane vassal and all that jazz to rule with Endless Spells, and then a week later they nerfed it to the ground because they made Morathi OP, instead of adding a little errata to Morathi's warscroll.
     
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  9. Erta Wanderer
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    i know it's to stop future cases from breaking things but bleh
     
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  10. Grotpunter
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    Whaaat so you cant even cast an Endless spell through the Trog? Fuck me thats a nail in the coffin for that guy.
     
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  11. ILKAIN
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    you never could... its one of the greatest 180 "fuck you"'s we ever got, just because of a single model in a different army...
     
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  12. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Yeah, the ONLY way to "cast" endless spells from afar, it's the umbral spellportal.

    At least, when our teleport happened in the hero phase we were able to to some nice trick...
     
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  13. Canas
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    I mean, who couldn't see coming that doubling the range of every spell for free would be problematic. ...

    Seriously, why do morathi & Nagash exist? Those two essentially break any interesting mechanic that could be done with magic on account of being such enormous outliers compared to an "average" wizard... And then GW puts a blanket fix that nerfs all normal wizards into oblivion instead of fixing the actual problem cases...

    Ah well, houserules ftw :p

    Nope that one is supposed to be covered under the same stupid F.A.Q. as well.
     
  14. Killer Angel
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    Killer Angel Prophet of the Stars Staff Member

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    Are you talking about the Umbral Spellportal?
    Because that works for endless spells… only, you cannot "cast" through them: it's the spell that moves across the portal. but it cannot move again, since the teleport works when the endless spell ends its move near one of the portals.
     
  15. Canas
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    ah thought you meant casting through it, not wondering through it once it's already been up for a moment.
     

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