8th Ed. Regeneration for the Slann

[Libina]

Hey guys.

I'm having a problem seeing the point in picking regeneration as one of the Slanns diciplines. It gives the Slaan the 'regeneration' special rule, which in the rulebook says that it can regenerate on a 4+. The thing is, that the rulebook also states, that regeneration and ward save doesn't stack, so I can't see why you'd wanna pick regeneration when the Slaan already have the +4 ward save.

Am I missing any special rules or something? Cause it really doesn't make sense to me.

 

[n810]

you got it,
Nobody goes for regeneration anymore....
if they can get a better wardsave.

 

[Arli]

I would bet that will be one of the desciplines that goes away altogether when the Lizardmen rulebook gets an update.

 

[Mahtis]

I would bet that will be one of the desciplines that goes away altogether when the Lizardmen rulebook gets an update.

Or make it a 3+ regen, so it would be taken. But being pretty darn good save it could have a drawback, like being flammable. But still think it will be left out.

 

[DanBot]

I would bet that will be one of the desciplines that goes away altogether when the Lizardmen rulebook gets an update.

Or make it a 3+ regen, so it would be taken. But being pretty darn good save it could have a drawback, like being flammable. But still think it will be left out.

We can take an enchanted item that turns our 4+ into a 2+ for less points. It will probably be left out. Too many ward save options. Its already basically out without much effect.

 

[Rhodium]

It is a relic from a previous edition where you could use a ward and a regen, similar to the HE special character Tyrion who has a 4+ ward and 4+ regen. Because you can choose to use either there are some situations where it might be useful (banishment, other tricksters shard) but it is really a very poor discipline in 8th edition

 

[Switchblade]

I prefer Regen over the Magic Res anyday, as Magic Res only applies for spells, whereas Regen is all-around, yes it can be nuked by fire, but how many people actually bring flaming weapons unless they're playing skaven or TK? Little things like the Banner of Eternal Flame are the first to go when squeezing points.

 

[Rhodium]

I prefer Regen over the Magic Res anyday, as Magic Res only applies for spells, whereas Regen is all-around, yes it can be nuked by fire, but how many people actually bring flaming weapons unless they're playing skaven or TK? Little things like the Banner of Eternal Flame are the first to go when squeezing points.

Magic res doesn't come into this, a slann has a natural 4+ ward save against everything so 4+ regen would very rarely ever be more beneficial than the ward because the ward comes free and the regen costs a discipline slot.

Even saying this, magic res would be more useful on a slann than the regen regardless because if the slann had the mr3 disicpline let's say, he has a 1+ ward against magic and 4+ ward against shooting and close combat, while with regen you only get 4+ regen against magic, shooting and close combat.

So considering both take up one discipline slot, the magic res 3 discipline is more useful than the regen discipline, not to mention the MR3 is passed onto the unit.

But really neither discipline is worth taking, there are much better options

 

[Libina]

All right. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some kind of nice special rule that allowed the Slann to have both regeneration and ward save. Thanks for the help guys.

 

[Switchblade]

But really neither discipline is worth taking, there are much better options

All paths lead to this, in complete agreement.

 

[Old Mossy]

But really neither discipline is worth taking, there are much better options

All paths lead to this, in complete agreement.

My ethereal slann disagrees with you. He quite likes having 1+ ward against magic.

 

[Rhodium]

But really neither discipline is worth taking, there are much better options

All paths lead to this, in complete agreement.

My ethereal slann disagrees with you. He quite likes having 1+ ward against magic.

I guess so, when I run an ethereal I take the divine plaque (a 2+ ward is the same as a 1+ ward) as it is cheaper but I guess it eats into your points allowance and the enchanted slot.

My point was generally, focus of mystery, higher state, rumination and becalming are 4 better disciplines

 

[Durandal]

All right. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some kind of nice special rule that allowed the Slann to have both regeneration and ward save. Thanks for the help guys.

It was pretty cool back in the day, if you wanted a near-untouchable lone Slann. 2++/4++ ward, regen, and could only be hit by magical attacks? Crazy.